LWN: Comments on "Test releases - be careful out there"

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rwmj — Mon, 05 Apr 2004 15:39:49 +0000

Does this mean that all the "capabilities" stuff which was introduced into the kernel a few years back but never really made it into userspace has been/can be removed?

Rich.

Test releases - be careful out there

boerner — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:48:19 +0000

Here here...I could not have said it better myself. I only hope that Red Hat takes the criticism with a grain of salt. Fedora is a fine product, and I hope they continue in the same fashion.

Test releases - be careful out there

LinuxLobbyist — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 08:57:05 +0000

Agreed. I witnessed that infamous "FC2 test2 is a BAD joke" thread and was quite frankly, appalled. I have personally kept my test system (starting with FC2 test1) updated with yum and did the (pseudo) upgrade via yum as well, so I didn't run into the problems that some did with the installer not working. (Not the best way to test, but I did follow the necessary manual enabling of selinux and believe I have a system that is close enough to stock FC2T2 plus updates to do reasonable testing.)

Even if I had attempted a normal clean install, and had run into the problems some others had, I would have used my technical experience and know-how to work around the problems the best I could. If I couldn't, well I would wait to see if a workaround was eventually posted to the list or see if a respin was regenerated, or whatever. That's the nature of testing. If you can't handle it, do something else (i.e.: go away and stop insulting developers who work harder than you may think).

I was quite frankly astounded by the ignorance and insulting comments of the original poster about this admittedly showstopper (for some) goof on Red Hat's part. It's part of the process and the original poster's attitude was inexcusable.

Test releases - be careful out there

Baylink — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 03:20:24 +0000

No *may* about it -- this problem is 100% expectation management.

Your appraisal seems right on target to me, Jon.