LWN: Comments on "Geary 0.13.0 released"

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nix — Sun, 24 Feb 2019 22:41:12 +0000

I keep absolutely everything other than spam, and always have. Why not? It consumes essentially zero disk space, backups are incremental and deduplicating anyway and it means I can search right back to the year dot (which for me was 1994).

Nearly all of it is useless -- but when something from 1997 turns out to be useful people are amazed that I could dig whatever-it-was up. I have no idea why. Keeping data around and searching it is what computers are *good* at.

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Wol — Sun, 24 Feb 2019 18:23:46 +0000

And how much of those "archives" is oodles of crap they just haven't bothered to delete ...

To me, "archive" means stuff I've organised with the deliberate intention of saving - most of what I see is stuff that's forgotten but not gone ...

Cheers,
Wol

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Herve5 — Tue, 19 Feb 2019 21:11:15 +0000

Ah, I didn't see it this way, indeed.
But when writing that I 'have' archives I thought of a more restrictive way of 'having' : for me gigabytes of data on the google servers aren't really mine. They are accessible as long as google doesn't change mind, and I'm old enough to have seen such kind of changes more than once. I admit my point of view is restrictive...

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Jandar — Tue, 19 Feb 2019 20:51:05 +0000

> As far as general consumers go, I haven't seen a single person use a dedicated mail client anymore for personal use.

I know more users of dedicated mail clients than users of web-mail, even within the subgroup of plain normal computer users.

Maybe it has something to do with age. With a mail client you are not subjected to permanent change of UI and can use your capacity for learning to something of intrinsic value. The reluctance to cope with often relearning how to use a *tool* seems increasing with the shortening of the remaining span of life.

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rahulsundaram — Tue, 19 Feb 2019 13:46:30 +0000

> I'd say, end-users with big archives of lots of emails do continue with dedicated email clients

Everyone using gmail has big archives of lots of email these days. What % is using email clients?

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Herve5 — Tue, 19 Feb 2019 09:00:42 +0000

I'd say, end-users with big archives of lots of emails do continue with dedicated email clients -like me.
But presumably in the end they'll all die ;-)

Geary 0.13.0 released

pabs — Tue, 19 Feb 2019 01:50:11 +0000

Anyone know what these security issues are? Do they have CVEs?

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pabs — Tue, 19 Feb 2019 01:49:36 +0000

On a related note, Elementary OS have reimplemented Geary on top of evolution-data-server for their mail client (called Mail).

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rahulsundaram — Mon, 18 Feb 2019 21:53:20 +0000

As far as general consumers go, I haven't seen a single person use a dedicated mail client anymore for personal use. That wasn't the case a few years back. You have to consider yourself a niche user. I am part of that group as well but let's not conflate that with the usage patterns of a typical end user.

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Wol — Mon, 18 Feb 2019 21:00:29 +0000

"Feature rich" web interfaces?

imho gmail is usable *only* by bypassing the web interface and using Thunderbird instead. Okay, I haven't delved into the features of gmail's new web interface, but the most important one they seem to have introduced in the latest revamp is hiding anything and everything that I'm interested, such that the only place I can find it is in Thunderbird.

Oh - that and flagging all the junk unwanted crap as "Important", whatever that means over and beyond my interpretation of it as "a complete waste of time".

Cheers,
Wol

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rahulsundaram — Mon, 18 Feb 2019 19:47:11 +0000

SUSE dropped upstream involvement of Evolution several years back and it seems to only have a single Red Hat upstream developer and that isn't enough. The rise of feature rich web clients have reduced the demand for it along with Thunderbird. Not a great state to be in.

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ay — Mon, 18 Feb 2019 19:09:33 +0000

You're right, sorry! It just hasn't been usable for me for a long time and I didn't see much goin on, now I see there's work on some regular basis, ex https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/comm...

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jbicha — Mon, 18 Feb 2019 18:53:30 +0000

Evolution is actively maintained.

Geary 0.13.0 released

perennialmind — Mon, 18 Feb 2019 17:47:46 +0000

If this release makes GMail support feasible, I'd say the release notes understate the point. As I read it, Geary doesn't support OAuth2 directly, but can leverage the GNOME platform account manager which does.

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ay — Mon, 18 Feb 2019 17:38:37 +0000

Yes, it's IMAP only. I wish Evolution was updated and actively maintained, the lack of a fully featured mail client usable with corporate servers is pretty frustrating.

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Herve5 — Mon, 18 Feb 2019 12:09:45 +0000

I appreciate the advice "if you want more documentation, install it and then read the built-in doc..."
Not intending to do so, do I understand correctly this is just for IMAP accounts, nothing on POP (or on large local POP databases)?
TIA!
Hervé