LWN: Comments on "OSDL pays Linus's legal bills"

Offtopic

angdraug — Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:59:33 +0000

This is a site about Linux, can you please restrain from off-topic hate speech?

P.S. While I agree that Russian state is being run by criminals, I believe it is unfair to repititively attack Russians while most other states and many large companies are run by criminals, as well. Not to mention that to punish Russian nationals for crimes commited by a Russian state is a crime of its own.

P.P.S. The quote that you attribute to Russian diplomacy actually belongs to Gebbels. Know your sources.

What about RMS?

emk — Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:25:06 +0000

Eben Moglen (FSF's attorney) and I both serve as expert witnesses and I had the opportunity to depose him recently - in a case you never heard of and probably never will. He handled it very well.

Moglen is a former Supreme Court clerk (for Thurgood Marshall, I believe), a respected professor of law at Columbia, and a world-class expert in free software and open source licenses. He's charismatic, well-spoken, and knows copyright law very well.

He's just about the last person I'd want to tangle with in a copyright infringement case.

What about RMS?

BrucePerens — Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:35:11 +0000

Eben Moglen (FSF's attorney) and I both serve as expert witnesses and I had the opportunity to depose him recently - in a case you never heard of and probably never will. He handled it very well. No doubt Richard will be well-prepared.

Bruce

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XERC — Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:32:54 +0000

Well, it's a money based society, where dog eat's dog. After all, that's what people cohose, when they went to elections. I guess, that the election results, where Arnold get's to be the governer, illustrates the trends well enough, so, it's the american dream.....(what ever that is?).

Hey, by the way, how is "The American Dream" defined anyway??? The term gets used pretty often, but I still don't know the meaning of it.

By calling U.S.A. a money based society, I don't state, that communism would be a good idea. I just reference to the trend, that all good and ethical is tossed aside when tossing it aside becomes profitable enough(talking about Mico$__t, SCO, the DMCA abusers, RIAA, vendors of proprietary software, all patetabilety and everything related, heavy restrictions on copying books, etc.).

And in the end, the europeans and the japaneese look at the U.$.A. as a good model to follow: all patenabilety in Japan and may-be also in Europe, propritary software, etc. Even the Micro$h__t admited in it's halloween documents, that all the new and innovative is first implemented on free plathforms and then, later, if ever, on their Win___$. Not to mention, that FFTW(to name a few) is part of a whole scientific REASEARCH!!!.

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rknop — Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:48:49 +0000

*SCO* should pay the legal costs! They're the ones who have the BS case, and the ones who issued the subpoena.

This is a real problem with our legal system, especially the system of civil law; the cost of entry is huge. If you're an individual (or, often, even a small company), you either have to find a patron or you have to give in to whatever bullying request is made. (Yeah, I realize a subpoena isn't a legal action against the person subpoenaed, but my point nonetheless stands.)

-Rob

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mmarq — Sat, 15 Nov 2003 03:42:09 +0000

"tell your opponent such a big and obvious lie, which is such a big and obvious nonsance..."

You mean accusing the stolen opponent victims of stealing... "guess" SCO is going to set the records odd to anyone!

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XERC — Sat, 15 Nov 2003 03:10:52 +0000

Just like the Russian diplomacy: tell your opponent such a big and obvious lie, which is such a big and obvious nonsance, taht your opponent is totally shocked and doesn't have any words left to answer it.

Where do I know? Well, I live in Estonia and The Russian Federation(former and future Soviet Union) is our big eastern nabour. By the way, the same criminals, that led the Russia during the Soviet times, are pretty much still in the same leading positions, the changes are rather formal and The Russian Federation even swiched back to the hymn of the former Soviet Union.
So, if you hear the hymn of the Russian Federation, it will be the exactly the same, that was used during the cold war. Graduations!

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mmarq — Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:08:31 +0000

"just imagine SCO trying to steal some actual code from a paper record"

A stupid thing that i just writen, Linux is open-source and so SCO could copy at will... if they havent done that by now!... or anybody else!...

The all matter is already too confusing, to say the least, even more trying to think in a SCO logic... sorry.

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mmarq — Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:51:58 +0000

"The
subpoenas request that OSDL and Torvalds produce documents for use in that
dispute. "

hmmm,... the all history with source code of all patches submited to Linus, in actual physical paper support ?

Couldn't they accept a digital record ?... no ?

Some supplier of paper is going to be very happy!
(Althought it could be a very good ideia,..., just imagine SCO trying to steal some actual code from a paper record!!)

What about RMS?

dr_lha — Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:35:17 +0000

I believe the FSF has legal counsel, so RMS should be well respresented.

What about RMS?

andrel — Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:22:25 +0000

Has anybody offered to cover Richard's legal bills?