LWN: Comments on "Announcing the release of Fedora 13 Beta"

Shotwell / Vala

jpirie — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:06:33 +0000

Had heard bad things about f-spot from a few people, so decided to poke my head inside f-spot's door and see what happened. Managed to crash it within a minute... :/

Shotwell / Vala

hazmat — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:26:52 +0000

Uhmm. there are just as many redhat apps in python, like anaconda the installer, virtmachine manager, etc.

The reality is that gnome stock is a selection of apps in categories with the common thread of gtk. obviously not mono plays a significant factor, but else its just one of the few apps in the category.

Shotwell / Vala

bronson — Wed, 14 Apr 2010 04:26:17 +0000

I'm glad to hear it wasn't due to some anti-Mono knee-jerk reaction. F-Spot was a poor product in its own right (sloppy, buggy, extremely slow) and has been embarrassing the default Linux desktop for years. Why worry about its runtime when there are so many better reasons to remove it? :)

Shotwell doesn't have many exciting features but it feels clean and snappy. I look forward to using it for real.

Good call on getting rid of Gwibber and avoiding Desktop Couch too. Looks like I'll be switching back to Fedora this year!

Shotwell / Vala

rahulsundaram — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:37:56 +0000

In you prefer Vala apps, Fedora 13 will have quite a number of them

http://mether.wordpress.com/2010/04/13/fedora-13-desktop-...

I was the one who made F-Spot optional and Shotwell the default and it wasn't driven by any sort of Mono hatred. Fedora Desktop team picked Shotwell for the Live image ( Live image doesn't have Mono since Fedora 10 release due to lack of space) and I thought, having Shotwell and f-Spot installed by default in a non-live installation was redundant. As simple as that. You can read the whole thread at

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2010-Mar...

Shotwell / Vala

kragil — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:46:21 +0000

Glad to see someone push Shotwell into the "mainstream" (default gnome install). RHs Mono-hate really does have its benefits, F-Spot just stinks. I think for Gnome Vala and Genie are the languages 3.0 and new apps should focus on. People want fast, light and smooth apps. Canonicals Python apps and Novells Mono programs are not what I would call fast, light and smooth. Maybe Steve Jobs hate for VMs etc isn't that baseless after all.