LWN: Comments on "Desktop Linux group launches (ZDNet)"

Where's GNOME?

BrucePerens — Thu, 06 Feb 2003 02:11:29 +0000

Someone pointed out that I bypassed the sarcasm above. That's me. I
was just looking for my own problems and not bothering with the rest.
I looked at that comment and said to myself, "oh darn, we didn't
talk with AfterStep". FreeDesktop.org isn't really its own organization,
it's either a collaboration of GNOME and KDE or it's Havoc Pennington's
web site. I'm not sure.

Anyway, I want to have a membership category for free software projects
that is without fee, and want to be reasonably careful about who gets
into that category - people who make real software, rather than advocacy
groups, are the target. Currently, I am representing all of the free
software projects as a voting member, just to get us through the formation
stage.

Thanks

Bruce

Desktop Linux group launches (ZDNet)

BrucePerens — Wed, 05 Feb 2003 19:16:46 +0000

Well, having both Ximian and GNOME shold take care of that.
Hopefully GNOME will see fit to join. GTK isn't really its
own organization, is it?

Bruce

Where's GNOME?

BrucePerens — Wed, 05 Feb 2003 19:14:57 +0000

GNOME is invited. I think they have to hold a board meeting, etc. I'm not sure anyone sent AfterStep an invitation, but they are invited now.

Bruce

Where's GNOME?

jamesh — Wed, 05 Feb 2003 16:01:03 +0000

Ximian is not the commercial arm of Gnome. It is simply one of many companies that work on Gnome, and produce distributions using code released by Gnome. Other companies that do this include Mandrake, Red Hat and Sun.

Ximian's involvement in the consortium would be as representation for Ximian's interests. Not Gnome's interests (although these two do intersect in some areas).

Where's GNOME?

jamesh — Wed, 05 Feb 2003 15:55:33 +0000

We got an invite to be one of the founding members, but did not have enough time to investigate the details, or consult with the membership of the Gnome Foundation.

Daniel Veillard summed things up in a message to the Gnome Foundation mailing list:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2003-February/msg00002.html

Not being part of the initial announcement does not preclude cooperation in the future.

Desktop Linux group launches (ZDNet)

RobertoDohnert — Tue, 04 Feb 2003 22:39:44 +0000

XIMIAN is the author a distributer of Mono and libgc

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RobertoDohnert — Tue, 04 Feb 2003 22:38:20 +0000

I dont see a problem with Lindows on board either but IMHO I do not feel that Michael Robertson can work well and play with others. It seems to me through all of his dealings and I am not just referring to the Summit that all he seems to do is do things to get his name in the paper. No matter how crazy or what he has to say it seems that he is just a rabal rouser If you guys decide to have a conference and you dont let him be a keynote speaker who knows how he will react.

Desktop Linux group launches (ZDNet)

dcoolidge — Tue, 04 Feb 2003 18:46:36 +0000

In my opinion, desktop linux can't compete with m$ without some good programming tools. Or at least well known programming tools. In that case I would like to see something like mono or gtk as part of the group.

Where's GNOME?

rfunk — Tue, 04 Feb 2003 17:39:25 +0000

Debian and Ximian (the commercial arm of GNOME) are both mentioned on the DLC web site.

I'm sure any other organizations and companies are free to join in...

Where's GNOME?

rjamestaylor — Tue, 04 Feb 2003 17:37:25 +0000

From Reading The Fine Links I found this:

Ximian

My question: where's AfterSTEP?

Not really.

Where's GNOME?

coriordan — Tue, 04 Feb 2003 16:22:12 +0000

In a group focusing on GNU/Linux desktop users, where's GNOME mentioned?

Where is FreeDesktop.org mentioned?

Did Debian decline to be represented or were they left out?
RedHat?

Really.

Ciaran O'Riordan

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BrucePerens — Tue, 04 Feb 2003 15:59:29 +0000

I am the interim executive director, presently an unpaid position. I am
making my income from consulting about Open Source / Free Software policy and processes (and my consulting business is finally
getting on its feet).

Steve's article made this look like an anti-Lindows move. It is not. I have personally invited Michael Robertson on board, and the invitation remains open. I don't see any negatives for Lindows in their joining.

Thanks

Bruce