Fedora 40 firms up for release [LWN.net]

Fedora 40 firms up for release

Posted Apr 25, 2024 12:15 UTC (Thu) by Tet (subscriber, #5433)
Parent article: Fedora 40 firms up for release

I'll be disappointed when network scripts are removed. One of the first things I do when I build a new box is to remove NetworkManager. It provides literally zero functionality that I didn't already have and brings with it increased complexity, lack of visilibity and unreliability. If you're on a laptop and your network connection is likely to change then it or something like it is needed. For me, with a fixed network with static IPs it's simply not and I'd rather live without it. But it looks like this is only a temporary reprive and that I'll be forced to use it in the next Fedora release :-(

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Fedora 40 firms up for release

Posted Apr 25, 2024 14:16 UTC (Thu) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

Or is it just appallingly documented (like so many things) because it's "intuitive" and it "just works"?

Having finally managed to get my laptop to connect over wi-fi, the grief ... and in the end - having thought I'd uninstalled NM because it steadfastly refused to play ball - it was NM that got me online!

However, having had it refuse to use the wifi link because it thought the RJ45 was working, now it claims the RJ45 isn't working because the wifi is ...

Cheers,
Wol

Fedora 40 firms up for release

Posted Apr 25, 2024 14:34 UTC (Thu) by farnz (subscriber, #17727) [Link] (1 responses)

The big problem with network scripts at the moment is that they're unmaintained, and depend on dhclient, which is being removed from the distro. I don't get the impression that there's huge opposition to keeping them around for now, just to putting work in to maintain them; if you want them to stay around, it might be worth volunteering to update them to not depend on dhclient.

Or consider systemd-networkd if you want something less dynamic than NetworkManager.

Fedora 40 firms up for release

Posted Apr 28, 2024 15:00 UTC (Sun) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]

Agreed. I had used `wpa_supplicant` for the longest time with `ifup`/`ifdown`, but `iwd` and `systemd-network` do work better for me.