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Jujutsu: a new, Git-compatible version control system

Jujutsu: a new, Git-compatible version control system

Posted Jan 23, 2024 18:05 UTC (Tue) by pizza (subscriber, #46)
In reply to: Jujutsu: a new, Git-compatible version control system by paulj
Parent article: Jujutsu: a new, Git-compatible version control system

> MS eventually faced anti-trust actions, and lost.

... did they really lose?

After all, the legal penalties they were eventually saddled with were even less than a slap on the wrist compared to the direct and indirect profits they made.


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Jujutsu: a new, Git-compatible version control system

Posted Jan 23, 2024 18:41 UTC (Tue) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

They were important to make Chrome viable, although I'm not sure whether this should be considered success or not.

Jujutsu: a new, Git-compatible version control system

Posted Jan 24, 2024 10:33 UTC (Wed) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link] (2 responses)

They lost the ruling, so they lost for sure. They had to unbundle IE too and give other browser equal opportunity to be the default browser.

If not for that, Internet history could be quite different.

Jujutsu: a new, Git-compatible version control system

Posted Jan 24, 2024 14:30 UTC (Wed) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link] (1 responses)

> They lost the ruling, so they lost for sure.

They lost _on paper_ but by that point they long since accomplished what they set out to do, and are _still_ reaping the benefits. The fines they faced were a pittance, and the "default browser ballot" BS was per formative nonsense, because by that point IE was intimately tied into the entire MS business software ecosystem and _completely_ owned the corporate desktop + backend.

(What eventually broke that wasn't the browser ballot, but the rise of the modern smartphone)

> They had to unbundle IE too and give other browser equal opportunity to be the default browser.

Um, IE _never_ ceased to be bundled with MS Windows. It is a core component of Windows. [1] At best, the only thing "removed" was the icon that launched the "browser wrapper" around that built-in component. (Sure, it's now called "Edge" and is built on the Chrome engine instead of Triton, but it's still just as proprietary and intrinsicly bundled as ever!)

[1] An embedded browser engine is a core component of every OS, commercial or otherwise. released since Windows 98, and it's _not_ replacable.

Jujutsu: a new, Git-compatible version control system

Posted Jan 24, 2024 15:02 UTC (Wed) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link]

Oops, I managed to put my reply to you in another subthread. See: https://lwn.net/Articles/959326/


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