openSUSE Release Engineering minutes October 11

All meeting minutes can be found here:
https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting
The meeting is hosted here
https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting
 
 
## Attendees
lkocman, DimStar, guillaumeg, ddemaio, Sarah,maxlin, ana, bmwiedemann,
dirk

## Leap

Leap Micro 5.5 GA is tomorrow. I have a draft utilizing my three last
"tutorials" of the release article.
Legal will look into IPRQ approval today.
Some pending work on get.opensuse.org towards Leap Micro.

The current Leap 15.6 535.1 build suffers from kernel broken usb. 
Next build is blocked on s390x product builds, mass rebuild of
Backports after snapshot update finished at night.
Max: in addition, I did intentionally disable s390x builds in
openSUSE:Leap:15.6 and openSUSE:Backports:SLE-15-SP6 project until we
get a new snapshot.

lkocman: From what I've heard there will be further reduction of build
power on s390x.
Sarah mentioned already last week that we'll have less resources for
s390x.
See Sarah's section for opportunity to get more s390x resources from
Accenture. Target date is January/February 2024.

Feature evaluation
https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issues - no new requests, no
pending SRs to mirror


Fixes for openSUSE quizzes for openSUSE Booths
https://github.com/openSUSE/artwork/tree/master/flyers/op...

lkocman: Electron web for software-o-o comming. (raised on yesterday's
community weekly meeting).

## openSUSE Tumbleweed (ana)

openSUSE:Factory build fail stats: 53 failed 5 unresolvable (last week:
70 failed, 14 unresolvable)
  https://tinyurl.com/ysy4nnnz


Some more small issues with openQA test machines but got solved quickly
but still impacted a bit snapshots timings.

Most relevant change this week: security updates for glibc (CVE-2023-
4911: Looney Tunables) and Linux 6.5.6

Updates waiting in staging (no changes from last week):
* boost 1.83.0 (waiting for fixes to make libzypp buildable)
* new libzypp/zypper stack - (boo#1216091)
      * fmt 10 blocked on mariadb (doesn't build on i586)



## Richard (Aeon)

Not available
lkocman: to reach out to him before sending minutes live

   Staging J stuff was accepted, so we have the skeleton of Aeon inside
Factory, YAY!
   Adding meat to the bones
   systemd-boot experiments have so far proven very interesting, and
worthy of spending a little more time on rather than rushing the
grub2/kiwi-self-install based image out as 'the way'
   unfortunately though, systemd-boot images break kiwi-self-install,
which forces my hand to find a more robust installation method for the
Aeon images
   looking at eos-installer/gnome-os-installer which seems to do
exactly what I want
   may also be the route to sorting out the systemd-homed problem as a
live image with that installer could have homed on the live image,
create the user there, and migrate it to the Aeon system after the
image. - That might however make the firstboot wizard redundant....
investigations ongoing
lkocman: Do we have any data on how many people are using e.g. dualboot
/ custom partitioning? The Foreign OS_PROBING (or whatever the variable
is) was disabled by default in Leap 15.5 for quite some time
(accidentally I suppose).
rbrown: Don't know and for Aeon don't care - dualboot/custom
partitioning will not be supported by Aeon; folk who want that are
better served by Tumbleweed where the installation and userspace
tooling is around to consider it, and all the problems it causes :)
    

## Bernhard (Slowroll)

Bernhard continued scripting https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Slowroll
Dominique: use branch instead of copypac then you'll not have issues
with release counters ; done
  unfortunately, osc branch -r $rev does not keep checkin-counters

TODO list: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/slowroll-todo openQA, frozen
project link, etc
Slowly moving forward
Voting for the new name, so far we have a lot of proposals. Voting is
done: name remains Slowroll
Starting with one flavor, more to come.

lkocman: Slowroll logo discussion on openSUSE Marketing / telegram /
matrix channel.

## Max

Just came back from vacation. No update.

## Guillaume - Arm

Tumbleweed:
  * U-Boot update broke on RPi4 -
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1216036 but TW should be
rolling again with next snapshot (20231010+)
  * WIP to get Tumbleweed to run on Lenovo X13s: 
         => Required kernel modules added to the installation images
         => Grub2 fix merged:
https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/1112520
         => Still some issues with USB and kernel 6.5.x (which may be
fixed in future kernel 6.6)
  * shim currently not signed by Microsoft for aarch64 (Tumbleweed
only, Leap is fine). Stalled -
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1211297
Lubos to ping Moussa regarding raising this issue on the weekly
Microsoft call.
Raised to Moussa, he confirmed that he'll raise it with Microsoft, no
update since the last week.

Leap:
   * No update
 
ALP:
    * shim not signed by MS (at least for aarch64, not sure for x86_64)
- jsc#ARM-100
    The last update was that Moussa wanted to get back to me last week,
he asked for "more time".
 
WSL: 
    * Works with x86 emulator since appx installer is x86-64, but this
is not really an issue since arm64 Win11 includes x86 emulator by
default. 
    Team is ok to publish it on Microsoft store anyway, but this would
require some testing in openQA which is now possible [0] (WSL1 and
WSL2) thanks to Fabian https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/126083. 
Steps documented on the wiki to install the appx from download.o.o:
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:WSL#With_Appx_from_openS...
lkocman: I will inform WSL team

[0]:
https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/overview?distri=opensus...

## Sarah - s390x


* Tumbleweed
* Can not be built because the foundation kernel can not run our builds
completely
-> issue forwarded to IBM by SUSE (issue exists since the data center
switch - single change was a firmware update)
* Situation at the moment: builds are breaking away with "no route to
host" at the end

* Other news about the mainframe:
* The mainframe ressoures will be reduced for  SUSE/openSUSE by IBM
-> 1 expanded system intead of 2 systems

   * Max we're looking for a second machine to help with s390x product
building issues on Leap.
   Sarah: Good argument to receive additional mainframe resources:
Kubernetes project issue to remove s390x for ingress-nginx on
github.com/kubernetes/ingress-nginx/issues/10498 because of missing
test/build environment
   -> SUSE is sponsoring 390x for Kubernetes in OBS. That should be an
argument to receive additional mainframe resources.

-> All build worker for s390x are down :(

lkocman: The new mainframe That would be a nice blog story on news-o-o.

## Doug
* Aeon/Kalpa workshop
lkocman: we should produce some stickers for these. As of now we don't
have any more MicroOS ones. Leap Micro ones are gone too. Would be
super useful to have them at workshops.
* Sent stickers for GSoC event
* Use cases survey has. over 1k responses Ends Oct. 31
* openSUSE.Asia Summit 
* Registrations 44, Submissions 31 
* Discussing another TSP request 
*  Will move items to tempoary new storage 
* Requested Bus for FOSDEM
  lkocman: I will ask about an option to have a bus from PRG. (The
distance creates is so that a bus driver would not be able to drive in
one day)
* Open CFPs
* SCALE
* FOSS Backstage
* Published HackWeek article
* BlueSky social media added with os-tweet recovery address
* Some wiki updates

Static 
* oSC24 dates June 27 to 29 reserved (Thursday - Saturday)
* AI topics (static)
* Nothing new



## Dirk

* usual bunch of factory package updates, supporting python 3.12
enablement

## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling


## Maintenance team (Marcus or Maurizio (m4u))

lkocman: Leap Micro 5.5 GA tomorrow, are we ready? LeapMicro 5.3 EOL
after release.
 
## Adrian - OBS

Not available


## Simon (Leap Replacement/Linarite)

Not available

## Open Floor