openSUSE Release Engineering minutes July 26

All meeting minutes can be found here:
https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting
The meeting is hosted here
https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting
 
 
## Attendees

RBrown, DimStar, lkocman,guillaumeg, anag, adrians, maxlin

 
## Leap

The next hackweek will take place in the week of 6th November.

Excited about
https://grommunio.com/blog/grommunio-packages-in-opensuse...
Deployments (100k users) like this makes me see the convenience for
customer to simply register and migrate Leap to get support from SUSE.
I helped NETitworks to apply for SUSE partnership.

Meeting minutes:
https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-202307...
All reported  feature requests against 15.6 were processed.
https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features

Filed several tasks regarding remaining setup of 15.6 (for QA, IT,
autobuild, etc). So we give team enough heads up to e.g. plan for the
openqa/maint setup around Beta timeframe, especially with all the work
on ALP.

Need to request Leap Micro 5.6 setup.

Some work on openSUSE-repos to support the try-out CDN 
https://github.com/openSUSE/news-o-o/pull/180

## openSUSE Tumbleweed

openSUSE:Factory build fail stats: 87 failed 5 unresolvable (last week:
90 failed, 1 unresolvable)
  https://tinyurl.com/ysy4nnnz

* openQA migrated to the new data center; snpashots 0720 - 0723 were
not tested/released
 
* kernel 6.4.6 (with ZenBleed fix) in staging, should be available by
end of the week
* libxml2 2.11.x blocked, as it breaks things like perl-XML-LibXML, 
* fmt 10 blocked, as it breaks mariadb boo#1213219, ceph boo#1213217 

## Richard (Aeon)

Really want to get Aeon's own media out soon, but also taking care not
to overwhealm OBS with endless experimental changes while the DC
migration leaves us with lower resources

So been focused on tidying up some organisational backlog

https://aeondesktop.org/bugs is now a nice curated list of all open
Aeon bugs. I plan to keep this list well managed in the future, maybe
by using bots

Feel free to file more bugs https://aeondesktop.org/reportbug

Considering a structured approach to handling customisation to Aeon in
relation to bug reports
https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Aeon/DevelopmentThoughts

TL;DR - highest priority will always be given to bug reports from Aeon
systems with no altered RPMs.
- adding (most) packages from the official TW Repos / NVIDIA will still
be supported but at a low priority
- adding packages from anywhere else, or known-bad packages from TW
Repos, will lead to bug reports from that system being handled with
least priority.
Userspace and bugzilla bot tooling needs to be written to impliment the
above first.

## Richard (ALP Architecture)

ALP-Leap-Replacement meeting minutes -
https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting20230725

Summary
- Few community discussions in the last month
- 2 ongoing experiemntal concepts
- Slowroll - basically a slower version of Tumbleweed to be less scary
for Leap users
- Linarite - basically a narrower, smaller Leap-like distribution,
likely with less desktops and fewer packages, formerly GrassyKnoll
- Limited progress to the "Slowroll" concept in the last month
- No progress on Linraite since GrassyKnoll
- Planning on doing a poll with the official election platform for
Members only to get some indication as to whether Slowroll, Linarite,
or not replacing Leap is where our contribution bases interest lies.

Personal Note: Richard is concerned at the apparant lack of contributor
interest in these efforts. Without more contributions we're not likely
to have a great solution, or maybe any solution, for Leap users
 
## Max

* Leap 15.6 and Backports-SLE15-SP6 are all good, we're lack of build
power though, therefore we do only have enabled x86_64 build for now
* The required Backports/Leap 15.6 checkers are running on botmaster
* I did submitted package update from 15.5:Update and Backports:SLE-15-
SP5:Update to 15.6/Backports:SLE-15-SP6

## Guillaume - Arm

Tumbleweed:
  * Rolling
  * gcc13 bug leading to build failure of highway (and maybe more) -
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1213647
  * shim currently not signed by Microsoft for aarch64 (Tumbleweed
only, Leap is fine). It has been sent upstream for review, so it is
progressing - https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1211297
  * armv6: python-setuptools-rust package fixed, so armv6 is now in
better shapes - https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1213005

Leap:
  * 15.5 aarch64: kernel oops seen on openQA aarch64 workers -
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1213620
   * 15.5: port for armv7: containers are currently not
building/created. Dirk mentioned that driver in 15.4 was the k3s team.
 
ALP:
    * shim not signed by MS (at least for aarch64, not sure for x86_64)
- jsc#ARM-100
 
WSL: 
    * Works with x86 emulator since appx installer is x86-64, but this
is not really an issue since arm64 Win11 includes x86 emulator by
default. 
    Team is ok to publish it on Microsoft store anyway, but this would
require some testing in openQA which is currently not possible (due to
technical issues and MS licensing issues)
https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/126083. 
Steps documented on the wiki to install the appx from download.o.o:
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:WSL#With_Appx_from_openS...

 
 
## Sarah - s390x
Not available

Tumbleweed
* running
* small test issue related to system profile in the installation
 
Leap:
* working 

 
* waitingSubmissisions with fixes for gtkd and gnu-cobol:
https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/1072852
(waiting for a simple Submit Approval of a Requires since 4 months!)
-> Alternative submitting directly to zSystems if Maintainers do not
respond -> Resolving
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1209438

https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/1078385
 
* Sarah is organizing access to IBM Z Security Portal regarding
security fixes (Spectre v2and other things)
-> waiting
* SUSE/openSUSE zSystems meeting has happened
* The bi-weeky openSUSE zSystems meeting will switch from 18:00 to
19:00.
 
## Doug
 
Not available

* Sponsorship of LinuxFest NorthWest from previous pre-covid
sponsorship carries forward this year
* Contact ddemaio if plan to attend or want to run a booth
* https://linuxfestnorthwest.org/
* openSUSE Conference 2023 videos complete
* Thank you c3voc & openSUSE Video Team
* Scheduling video posts on social media
* Project Clarity
* Establishing a clear understanding of projects within the openSUSE
Project umbrella and how new project will be identified, verified to be
part of the openSUSE Project
* Board will be taking this on (Rancher and Uyuni/SUSE Manager) was
discussed in the board meeting earlier this week)
* openSUSE.Asia Summit 
* Registrations 4, Submissions 5
* Talks can be onsite or virtual (recorded). 
* Deadline is August 20. 
* Submit your proposal at https://events.opensuse.org/
     * openALT / Fall 2023 (invoice based) sponsorship approved by
Anicka (10k CZK)
       - Dirk reminded us about OSCC still having some budget available
* Trying to troubleshoot one TSP payments
* Community meeting
* Worked on project clarity & enhancing info on
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:How_to_contribute_to_Fac...
* EL Collaboration Meeting changed to once a month. Next is August 31
* GSoC
* Mid-term evaluations complete with 100% Friday, July 14, by 18:00 UTC
* openSUSE Boxes
* Two companies are thinking about restarting with Start-Up Booklet
* Stakeholders informed
* Need to schedule followup meeting w/netitwork
Static 
* Still need future storage location
* AI topics (static)
* Scraping of info & how it might affect costs is being dicussed by
board
* Dirk: There is a OSCC meetup today touching the topic
* Board looking into using AI to help with possible moderation

*** ddemaio will be unavailable for this meeting until the August 9
meeting starting next week

## Dirk

Not available

CDN contract with Fastly is signed, Fastly is sponsoring openSUSE
project with CDN bandwidth
Currently added as fallback mirror for North America, South America and
Europe
lkocman: Will this affect our download metrics? 
Dirk: Since we don't track downloads from instances other than
download-o-o, and we're not switching  download-o-o currently. So
pretty much same state as before.


Step 15.6/SP6 enablement for armv7

Various package updates like usual

Added openSUSE Tumbleweed BCI images (SLE BCI images built for
opensuse, available on registry.o.org)
Location changed from registry.opensuse.org/bci/* to
registry.opensuse.org/opensuse/bci/*
BCI non-devel images are now available in openSUSE Registry, images are
TW based.
 

## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling

Not available
 
     Project openSUSE:Backpors:SLE-15-SP6 created in OBS (currently
build disabled because of AC issues in SRV1, more build workers will be
added latest tomorrow)
     
     Creating release package for SP6 (SUSE:Backports:SLE-15-SP6) today
in IBS

 
## Maintenance team (Marcus or Maurizio (m4u))

Not available

No big news

Firefox needs updates of dependencies before it can be updated to the
current version (Security fixes)

libzypp update in 15.5 was fixed by releasing missing dependency.
libzypp issue that can be properly addressed only with respin of DVD.
See section above for more details.

openQA is OK currently. (snapper was fixed)
Some 15.5 updates from between freeze and GA need to be released, WIP
for Marcus

Key rotation:

Migration with changed 4k key. Current autoimport solution is not
ideal. Marcus will work on update of the opensuse-build-key
https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade#0._New_4096_bi...
 
Marcus is working also on the SLES side, the update of package with the
new key was released last week, it's just not activated yet, but it
will be already trusted by Leap 15.5 systems.
 
Leap 15.4 is working
Leap Micro 5.3 is working
Leap Micro 5.4 testing is now passing as well
 
Leap 16.0 - we should revisit the update/sle repo as the current setup
not exactly mirror friendly. Solutions could be dropping not so popular
architectures or split repositories per architecture.
 
 
lkocman: 15.3 EOL could lead to stopping our physical Source DVD
effort, as it seems we will not produce. As this was the last release
which you could still get on a physical media.
Lkocman: anything against decomissioning it?
Not a single valid request since I've joined SUSE. We did receive only
requests for binary install media which are not subject to ^. We do not
plan to offer this for any new releases.
 
 
## Adrian - OBS

OBS build power is back to normal after fixing misconfiguration which
kept workers busy.
Servers for OBS is moving to new datacenters until the end of the month
of July
AC problems in Nüremberg with openQA servers 

## Open Floor