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There's always Mutt

There's always Mutt

Posted Jun 29, 2004 21:34 UTC (Tue) by dmantione (guest, #4640)
In reply to: There's always Mutt by ncm
Parent article: The Grumpy Editor's guide to graphical mail clients

In the quest for a user friendly Linux desktop there is little room for
well but strange baked cakes from the 70s and 80s. Deal with it.

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There's always Mutt

Posted Jun 29, 2004 21:51 UTC (Tue) by hppnq (guest, #14462) [Link]

What is it that makes people think that vi (and 70s friends) and a desktop are mutually exclusive?!

Oh well. Who needs evolution + vim if you can have pine and pico. ;-)

There's always Mutt

Posted Jun 29, 2004 21:53 UTC (Tue) by ncm (subscriber, #165) [Link]

I do deal with it. I use mail programs that do what I want them to do.

It would seem odd to start by assuming that anything I want is inherently ignorable. Generally, when I want something, somebody else wants it too. Maybe it's "obscure" from a marketing standpoint, and there might not be any profit in providing it, but that's not what Free Software is about, is it?

Maybe doing what people want even though "there's no market" is why Free Software is eating your lunch.

There's always Mutt

Posted Jun 29, 2004 22:49 UTC (Tue) by james (subscriber, #1325) [Link]

Not the point.

This is a Unix-like system. It should be possible to plug in an external editor, whether it's vi-like, emacs-like, kedit, nano, or whatever. This is especially true when the user has a preferred set of keybindings and "feel" to an editor.

Actually, I'd claim that it would be highly reasonable for an e-mail client to open an external HTML editor if the user really wanted to send HTML mail. (Yes, there are occasions when it's justified). Depending on the situation (which should include knowing which MUA recipients use), this might allow for specialised editors that make it easy to send a particular type of very rich hypertext.

No-one who understands the power of pipelines complains that you shouldn't be able to pipe ls through sed "because sed is a strange-baked cake that has been superceded by Perl". The important thing is being able to plug in an editor, not what that editor is.


(And yes, I do use vi and friends a lot...)

I do deal with it

Posted Jul 1, 2004 1:26 UTC (Thu) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link]

The lack of proper support for external editors is why I don't use Evolution or the Mozilla mail clients.

This is such an incredibly easy feature for the Evo or Mozilla developers to add that I can only conclude they're actively hostile to the idea.

So much for code reuse.

I do deal with it

Posted Jul 1, 2004 9:06 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

It's also (amazing, but true) a feature that Gnus doesn't support.

(Perhaps the only one. :) )

I do deal with it

Posted Jul 8, 2004 15:29 UTC (Thu) by chmouel (guest, #6335) [Link]

Gnus doen't support the filtering to external editor ? And :


It is bound to | or O p by default

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