openSUSE Release Engineering minutes July 27

All meeting minutes can be found here:
https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting
Meeting is hosted here
https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting

## Attendees
Lubos, Doug, RBrown, Gerald, DocB

Preparation of Immutable Desktop Workshop starting on 2nd August

Big thanks to all early contributors who helped us to rework the tasks,
so others have smoother ride on 2nd August 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AGKijKpKiJCB616-b...

## Leap

15.4 retro Still have quite a lot of feedback to process. There was no
interest in past 3 public reviews, so I'll not announce any more public
rounds, but will simply share categorized outcome on usual places and
with respected teams. https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:15.4/Retrospective


SLES 15 SP5 Feature "early" evaluation deadline is this friday. I
already feel that SLE RM doesn't have capacity to process new features.
All of Leap 15.5 features from code-o-o were processed 

The self-install with gnome-initial-seutp feature
https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/89

Leap Micro 5.3 is building. Still need to look into final blockers for
openQA process

The SUMA/repository bug was turned into
https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/91

Slowly processing
https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/opensuse-leap-15-5...

Discussion with ALP Product management about proposed lifecycle for
Community ALP next week on Tuesday (before ALP CWG meeting)

## openSUSE Tumbleweed

Tumbleweed is rolling again afer the combination of vacations, OBS
overheating (still ongoing, so don't be surprised if snapshots are less
often) and Live CD's growing too big over and over again

Perl 5.365 made it in

Fun stuff still in stagings:
    - rust (to make 1.62 the default)
    - kernel 5.18.12
    - python-rpm-packaging
    - vim 9.0.0073
    
Annoying stuff still in stagings:
    - a whole pile of python stuff is stuck in Staging:L
    
Snapshot diff tooling at
https://openqa.opensuse.org/snapshot-changes/opensuse/Tum... seems
to be missbehaving and underreporting the changes
Axel: Please announce this misbehavior to factory@

GPG Key to sign packages/repos is planned to be updated to be a
4096/RSA key (implementation schedule pending)
 Tracker bug :  https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1199184

## Richard (MicroOS) 

Tumbleweed BCI images are now building properly and in Factory, looking
to make them the default base for other official images

MicroOS Desktop GNOME is in RC
MicroOS Desktop KDE is in Alpha but seeing it's first contributions
from new contributors in a very long time

Lots of MicroOS Desktop feedback thanks to the attention ALP has given
it, but actionable feedback and/or contributions from that attention is
yet to appear

lkocman: Do we have some list for junior tasks wiki page?
We need to construct the actionable tasks from the current attention.

Doug about the changelog is this affecting openQA? (Doug feel free to
restate it). Doug consumes the changelog.

## Max
Not available - has an appointment

* The relevant attributes for the release tooling and openQA has
already sets
* Leap 15.5's disk space on OBS need to be increased, wait for
autobuild team
* Still waiting for SUSE:SLE-15-SP5:GA project to be synced to OBS,
after that, we need pool-leap-15.5 to be created on each SLE15 SPxa

## Guillaume - Arm

Not available

Tumbleweed:
    * Rolling
    * ghc-bootstrap issue currently fixed with a package overlay in
:ARM will be fixed properly with
https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/986171 but adi:37 is currently
red -  https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1199897

Leap 15.4:
    * armv7: No update channel. How to deliver updates to user?
Lubos to figure out plan with maintenance-setup, so far we're in
continuous rebuild mode.
guillaume_g: openqa is disabled, so packages from OBS are not pushed to
openqa. 
Lubos will sent email to Jan Stehlik, Guillaume, Dirk will be in cc.

ALP: 
    * aarch64 on par with x86_64

Manual trigger for rebuild is always considered a workaround. If you
spot some missing rebuild that was not catched by infra please speak up
to autobuild. 
Dirk: project is setup for full rebuild, there should be very little
need for manual rebuilds.

## Sarah - s390

Not here today

lessons  in parallel


openSUSE Leap 15.4:
* no issues 

We had a nice BBQ party within our team at the end of June. All in the
team have participated.

## Doug

* ALP articles related to testing MicroOS progressing
https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/blog20220726 (draft)
* openSUSE.Asia Summit CfP closes on July 31.
https://events.opensuse.org/
* Items shipped for RomHack
* Dropped off Marketing materials for FrOSCon
* GSoC
* First GSoC evaluations due Friday
* 4 of 5 complete

## Dirk

Not available

* available, nothing important to share
lkocman: Could you elaborate on interest in skribble-io (was it for
#network-oscc?)
no, for the upcoming "August" SUSE Global-Engagement month which is
about celebrating open source communities and technologies
https://github.com/openSUSE/opensuse-skribbl-io (for exclusive opensuse
word list)

## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling

Testing request for PH https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/114481
One new PH / filelists check related task for 15.4
https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/106610

Automation request for publishing

(one more automation request that I can't find at the moment)

SLE 12 SP5 PH request to add supervisor
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1200415
 - SR created: https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/983452

Getting several reports of missing packages from PH 15 SP4. Noticed
that there are about 1300 packages removed from Backports 15 SP4 vs
SP3.  Need to investigate why we are missing so many.
Max: Wolfgang is working on it. There will be a call tomorrow.

Let's revisit this after hackweek, lubos will make a meeting.

## Maintenance team (Marina or Marcus, Maurizio (m4u))

Not available

python-certbot update is now released (was blocked on python-
cryptography)
Related pyOpenSSL update pending (will fix package breakage on
deprecation warnings)

5.3 Leap Micro update channel can be setup once the Micro 53 channel is
in place.
Lubos to remind maintenance team to set it up (around Micro 5.3 Beta)

* 15.4 Update openQA
Hopefully solved now, issues with rpms exported from old code-streams
Regressions in glibc in both 15.3/15.4 and kernel in 15.3

- Marcus: 15.4 is set up channel wise, updates will go in testing
occasionaly, if you need more ping me, no openqa setup yet
lkocman: could you please help me with cleanup of maintenance tasks in
https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/opensuse-leap-15-4...
lkocman: will contact Jan Stehlik. Santi (PO for the topic) mentioned
he'll work on it.
lkocman: messaged Jan
Jan confirmed with me that they're on it. 

lkocman: (still pending) will open a release notes entry for a change
Security Advisory identification
TODO Marcus: could you give me example of old and new values?

- Marina and Maurizio: SLE-PackageHub overlaps
(https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/issu...) work
in progress following the initial list of overlapping packages
(https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/106610#note-3). More incidents
are under QA. Work is going on and under control (and tracked
internally as jsc#MSC-303).
Already released: (AH PERFECT!)
Updated the list of packages released into PH from Workstation
Extensions:
SUSE:Maintenance:22929:265929 (babl libbabl-0_1-0 typelib-1_0-Babl-0_1)
SUSE:Maintenance:23000:266006 (MozillaThunderbird enigmail)
SUSE:Maintenance:23009:266004 (freerdp freerdp-devel freerdp-proxy
libfreerdp2 libgsm) -> libgsm1 was missing in PH making freerdp not
installable
SUSE:Maintenance:22928:266007 (argyllcms csync libcsync0 libcsync-
plugin-sftp libcsync-plugin-smb)
SUSE:Maintenance:23015:267052 (gfbgraph-devel libgfbgraph-0_2-0
typelib-1_0-GFBGraph-0_2 librest gcr) -> librest, gcr and libgoa are
needed too for making gfbgraph installable
SUSE:Maintenance:23334:268316 (gutenprint gutenprint-devel)
SUSE:Maintenance:23486:268867 (hp-drive-guard, upower) --> needs
libupower-glib3
SUSE:Maintenance:23487:268897 (liba52-0 liba52-devel)
SUSE:Maintenance:23506:268899 (libdvdread4 libdvdread-devel)
SUSE:Maintenance:23531:270242 (libgom-1_0-0 typelib-1_0-Gom-1_0)
SUSE:Maintenance:23484:268898 (gtkmm2-devel libgtkmm2-devel) -->
atkmm1_6, pangomm1_4, cairomm1_0 also added to resolve installation
issues
SUSE:Maintenance:23777:270395 (libstoken1 stoken-devel stoken-gui) -->
stoken-gui is needed to resolve installation issues
SUSE:Maintenance:23547:270375 (liblpsolve55-0 lpsolve-devel)
SUSE:Maintenance:23551:270382 (libmeanwhile1 meanwhile-devel)
SUSE:Maintenance:23528:270245 (libgadu3 libgadu-devel)
SUSE:Maintenance:23533:270244 (libgrss0 libgrss-devel typelib-1_0-Grss-
0_7)
SUSE:Maintenance:23512:268906 (libchamplain-0_12-0 typelib-1_0-
Champlain-0_12) --> libcogl-pango20 typelib-1_0-Cogl-1_0 libcogl20
typelib-1_0-CoglPango-1_0 typelib-1_0-Clutter-1_0 libclutter-gtk-1_0-0
libclutter-1_0-0 also added to resolve install issues
SUSE:Maintenance:23530:270237 (libGLw1 libGLw-devel libGLwM1 motif
libXm4) --> libXm4 motif also added to resolve install issues
SUSE:Maintenance:23841:270513 (libzapojit-0_0-0 typelib-1_0-Zpj-0_0)
SUSE:Maintenance:23599:270385 (libmysqlcppconn7 libmysqlcppconn-devel)
SUSE:Maintenance:23577:270383 (libmediaart-2_0-0 typelib-1_0-MediaArt-
2_0)
SUSE:Maintenance:23611:270420 (librasqal3 librasqal-devel) --> raptor
libraptor-devel libraptor2-0 librdf0 libredland-devel also added to
resolve install issues 

## Adrian - OBS 

Not available