Distributors entering Flatpakland [LWN.net]

Distributors entering Flatpakland

Posted Jul 11, 2022 16:19 UTC (Mon) by atnot (guest, #124910)
In reply to: Distributors entering Flatpakland by smoogen
Parent article: Distributors entering Flatpakland

> As far as I can tell this is humanity having to relearn all the lessons that the 'previous generations' had to learn themselves.

This sort of bundling and unbundling cycle has been going on forever in all sorts of places. I could just as easily shift your argument by half a wavelength and then I'd be grumbling about how the young ones refuse to see the hard learned benefits of bundling instead (it might sound a bit like someone complaining about npm).

It sure is a lucky coincidence that the generation of tools you grew up with and are most used to happen to be the ones where the cycle ends, we Finally Got It Right, made the perfect tradeoffs and there is little left to improve upon (:

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Distributors entering Flatpakland

Posted Jul 11, 2022 16:41 UTC (Mon) by smoogen (subscriber, #97) [Link]

No, sorry I don't think we got it right.. I just didn't want to spend 600 lines going over every other tool system which has followed the same path.

I also did not come in when the tools were right, I came in when everything was unbundled and you downloaded various 'tarballs' from websites and hoped it worked on your system. I then went through most of the joys of 'oooh I get this so much faster and easier' to 'ooooh I get to rebuild all this and make it work the way I want it' to 'ooooh now I have to figure out how I made this 6 months ago because the backups ate themselves and I need to restore this site.' Each of them had their own positives and negatives. Each had their 'stop talking at me old person, just because you had problems then doesn't mean I will now'