Clouds and VPSes [LWN.net]

Clouds and VPSes

Posted Apr 25, 2022 14:20 UTC (Mon) by wtarreau (subscriber, #51152)
In reply to: Clouds and VPSes by johannbg
Parent article: Fedora considers deprecating legacy BIOS

> reduce the human population because *none* of the solution out there fix anything ( but they do produce profit ), at best they just delay it. This whole act of people pretenting to be "green" to ease their environmental guilt which has been installed by their government in conjunction with the oil companies and an trillion dollar environmental industry is just ridiculous.

This actually is the part I agree with :-)

Note that I wasn't doing some greenwashing, just explaining that I'm not seeing any reason to trash perfectly working hardware (which comes with costs and waste) just for the sake of making some developers' life easier when they claim that may hardware is dead.

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Clouds and VPSes

Posted Apr 25, 2022 15:31 UTC (Mon) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

Yup.

Running costs are only part of the equation. How much environmental damage is done and making new and disposing of obsolete hardware? Surely the extra costs of running old hardware may well be cheaper ...

Much as I dislike the waste-to-power plant just down the road (and even more so because we're a poor East London borough having all of posh West London's waste dumped on us), the fact is that is very environmentally friendly - it means a load of waste is converted efficiently to energy and CO2 rather than inefficiently converted to methane ... and it leaves a load of oil/coal unmined and in the ground.

If you're being green, you need to look at the big picture, not just minimise your costs at the expense of creating even bigger costs elsewhere (cough cough the government pricing our steel industry out of existence cough cough).

Cheers,
Wol