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Goodbye FLoC, hello Topics

Goodbye FLoC, hello Topics

Posted Feb 1, 2022 14:22 UTC (Tue) by khim (subscriber, #9252)
In reply to: Goodbye FLoC, hello Topics by kleptog
Parent article: Goodbye FLoC, hello Topics

> The GDPR doesn't apply to the data of Russian citizens, so what's the relevance?

Huh? We are discussing that one:

You don't need to interact with a country to be affected by their laws, you just need to interact with a person from that country.

We are not talking about Russian citizens, but about foreigners who are, miraculously, according to you, entitled for what GDPR promises even if they are in Russia. But Russian law is extremely clear: when you are on Russia soil you may forget about your country laws which say something. Either there are Russian which gives you some rights or you have no rights at all.

Which means that if you ban the EU citizens on your website you can safely ignore GDPR: EU citizens which interact with you legally can not bring it in the court and the ones who used VPN to pretend they are on Russian soil are very unlikely to be taken seriously by the court.

> Of course, being China it's surrounded by certifications and a lot of other top-down bureaucracy that the GDPR doesn't have, but many of the basics are similar.

Yes, GDPR have opened the Pandorra box. Now every country claims that their own law are exterritorial and apply to the whole world… but can they actually enforce that? When other countries (like Russia and China itself) explicitly refuse to accept that exterritoriality?

I think that it would take 5-10 years before we would reach the final outcome, but I don't think it would be the ability of EU to enforce GDPR in all countries around the world and the ability of China to enforce PIPL around the world.

More likely outcome is separation of the world into regions with clearly outlined borders and where mon-n-pop shop in Bangladesh would continue to blissfully ignore GDPR (but may be tied by PIPL depending on where the line between regions fall).

IOW: I don't see the trend moving into the direction of more respect for people privacy. I would expect more and more geographic bans instead.


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