Debian 11 "bullseye" released [LWN.net]

Debian 11 "bullseye" released

Posted Aug 15, 2021 19:26 UTC (Sun) by tuna (guest, #44480)
Parent article: Debian 11 "bullseye" released

I do not understand why Debian does not release the latest upstream Linux. Upstream promises no regressions and Debian should not be concerned about closed source drivers. But maybe old habits are hard to change...

Debian 11 "bullseye" released

Posted Aug 15, 2021 20:28 UTC (Sun) by dvdeug (subscriber, #10998) [Link] (1 responses)

https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-kernel-handbook... shows the simple steps to install an upstream kernel. If you must have a Debian package, unstable will generally have one. It's one of the easiest packages to keep current in Debian, as it does promise no regressions and doesn't depend on a web of complex libraries.

Debian 11 "bullseye" released

Posted Aug 15, 2021 23:32 UTC (Sun) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link]

I have a little shell script that builds me debs of the latest upstream kernel. If anyone wants it, here it is with no warranty whatsoever.

build-kernel-pkgs builds the debs and get-latest-linux-kernel-info.pl is a helper script that gets the latest stable Linux kernel version.

Debian 11 "bullseye" released

Posted Aug 15, 2021 21:20 UTC (Sun) by rodgerd (guest, #58896) [Link] (5 responses)

Upstream routinely deliberately creates regressions, like disabling functionality to continue their pathetic war with Sun, a company that ceased to exist more than a decade ago.

Debian 11 "bullseye" released

Posted Aug 16, 2021 0:46 UTC (Mon) by dvdeug (subscriber, #10998) [Link] (2 responses)

Grumpy about something? You've phrased that in a way that I don't know what you're talking about, but I'm automatically inclined to doubt it. Do you wish to restate that in more specific and clear form?

Debian 11 "bullseye" released

Posted Aug 16, 2021 3:39 UTC (Mon) by cesarb (subscriber, #6266) [Link]

Given the mention of Sun, my guess is that it's a complaint about the "no regressions" policy applying only to user space, but not to the kernel API used by out-of-tree modules like ZFS.

Debian 11 "bullseye" released

Posted Aug 16, 2021 3:45 UTC (Mon) by jkingweb (subscriber, #113039) [Link]

I'd guess it's a reference to GPL-only exports making life more difficult for OpenZFS. Not that there's actually a war on, with Sun's corpse or anyone else, nor that OpenZFS actually has anything currently to do with Sun, either.

Debian 11 "bullseye" released

Posted Aug 16, 2021 11:34 UTC (Mon) by clump (subscriber, #27801) [Link]

Your criticism, if it's about the CDDL, should be directed at Oracle.

Debian 11 "bullseye" released

Posted Aug 18, 2021 18:13 UTC (Wed) by flussence (guest, #85566) [Link]

Even nvidia fanboys aren't this rabid.

Debian 11 "bullseye" released

Posted Aug 24, 2021 2:10 UTC (Tue) by ras (subscriber, #33059) [Link]

> I do not understand why Debian does not release the latest upstream Linux.

Debian does release the lastest upstream kernels for stable. They are available in the backports repository. I occasionally use them.

And having used them - I can confirm they are not regression-less as their makers might hope.