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Looking forward to Fedora 34

By Jonathan Corbet
April 15, 2021
The Fedora project may have managed to shake off its reputation for delayed releases in recent years, but that hasn't stopped the release date for Fedora 34 from slipping one week to April 27. Modulo a handful of bugs, though, this release is in its final form, so a look at what is coming is warranted. Distribution releases, especially those for fast-moving community distributions, are a good point at which to catch up with the state of many free-software projects and where Linux is headed in general. Fedora 34 includes a lot of changes, including the GNOME 40 release but, for the most part, it looks like an exercise in continuity.

Incidentally, your editor has been made aware that we are all supposed to call the distribution "Fedora Linux" now, with the bare name "Fedora" reserved for the project. So this article should properly be talking about "Fedora Linux 34", but old habits die hard.

Like many distributors, Fedora makes it easy to beta-test its upcoming releases so, on a whim, your editor decided to update his system and see what was coming; what could possibly go wrong? The target Thinkpad, which nicely came with Fedora pre-installed by the manufacturer, was just sitting there waiting for this sort of opportunity. As expected, the upgrade went smoothly and the laptop booted up in the new system without any obvious hitches.

Losing the pulse

The Fedora 8 release in 2007 included a notable change: it switched over to the PulseAudio system for all of its sound handling. This transition, it is fair to say, generated a fair amount of noise; PulseAudio did not work well for many users, often as the result of bugs elsewhere in the system. It took a long time for things to settle down (not just on Fedora) and many electrons perished in the resulting discussions, which often managed to be loud even in the absence of working audio. But, in 2021, complaints about PulseAudio are scarce indeed; the quirks have long since been ironed out and, for most people, sound just works.

Obviously, it must be time to rip out the audio infrastructure and start over. That is what Fedora has done in the 34 release; PulseAudio is gone, replaced by PipeWire. The new system has a lot of claimed advantages, including better suitability to current devices, better security, a design that can handle professional-level requirements, and the ability to handle video as well as audio streams. For this Fedora release, PipeWire is only used for audio data.

A new audio subsystem brings back memories of the last change and might rightly be approached with some trepidation. What your editor found, though, is that audio just worked the way it did in previous releases. The only glitch was associated with plugging a television into the HDMI port to watch a movie; that part worked fine, but the system failed to switch back to the built-in microphone and speakers after the TV was unplugged. The audio-settings dialog showed no audio devices selected at all; going back to the built-in devices was a quick matter of picking them from the dropdown menu.

PipeWire also replaces the professional JACK audio system in Fedora 34, but your editor is not set up to test that functionality.

GNOME 40

Fedora 34 includes GNOME 40; this release was preceded by a fair amount of hype describing it as a fundamental change to the desktop system. That, too, is enough to create a certain amount of concern among those of us who have lived through previous transitions. Making peace with GNOME 3 was a long process for many — a process that some users never managed to complete. For most, though, GNOME has stabilized into something that we can work with and even not swear at more than a few times per day. The GNOME 40 material made it sound like that was all about to change.

In truth, the changes in GNOME 40 are minor and not disruptive. That said, the first thing one notices after logging into the system is that the desktop now starts in the "activity" view — not the most exciting thing, since there are no activities to view yet:

[GNOME activity view]

The theory behind this behavior, presumably, is that entering that view is the first thing users do to start the application they want to use first, so the system might as well save them the keystroke needed to get there. First-time users might be forgiven for wondering what they are looking at, though.

As can be seen above, the activity view has changed a bit; application icons now appear along the bottom rather than on the left side, for example. That, of course, makes the experience worse if you enter the activity view by moving the pointer into the "hot corner" in the upper left; it is now necessary to move all the way back to the bottom of the screen to select an application to run. This is, perhaps, an acknowledgment by the GNOME developers that the hot corner is normally only activated by accident (and greeted with profanity) while trying to do something else in that part of the screen. For the other paths into this view (including a new trackpad gesture), placing the icons on the bottom works as well as anything else.

The interface around workspaces has changed a bit; they are now arranged horizontally rather than vertically. If your system has a trackpad, dragging three fingers to the side will scroll through the workspaces.

Various applications have been updated, though usually not in huge ways. For example, the GNOME 3.38 weather application looks like this:

[GNOME Weather 3.38]

In GNOME 40, that application looks a little different:

[GNOME Weather 40]

This change is not necessarily an improvement; one must now switch between the tabs to see both the hourly and daily predictions, for example. The notion that weather information for Colorado comes from the Norwegian Meteorological Institute is amusing, but that's the globalized world we live in, evidently. Your editor had vaguely hoped that the newer version might not insist that it will be snowing for the next week, but that feature was evidently dropped for this release.

In general, though, GNOME 40 just feels like another GNOME 3 release.

Other stuff

Naturally, the Fedora 34 release updates many other components in the system. Changes include a 5.11 kernel (also shipped on Fedora 33), GCC 11, glibc 2.33, Go 1.16, LLVM 12, Ruby 3.0, PostgreSQL 13, Xfce 4.16, and more. On the other hand, any remaining xemacs users out there will be wanting to look for alternatives; that package has been deprecated and will be removed from a future Fedora release.

In other changes: the ability to disable SELinux at run time has been removed in this release, as expected. One change that users will hope they never actually see is the switch to systemd-oomd on all Fedora variants. This change provides a more proactive and configurable response to out-of-memory situations, but having processes killed because of a memory shortfall is never pleasant even if one agrees with the system's choice of victim.

If your system is using Btrfs, it will now use transparent zstd compression by default. If you are using the NTP network time daemon, it will be replaced with NTPsec, which is arguably better maintained and more secure; most configurations should just work but people who have customized things may need to make some changes.

There are many other changes in the system as well, of course, but users are unlikely to notice most of them. As a general rule, Fedora 34 Fedora Linux 34 looks a lot like its predecessors: a solid and functional desktop for those who work in Linux full-time and want access to recent software releases.


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Looking forward to Fedora 34

Posted Apr 15, 2021 15:54 UTC (Thu) by dowdle (subscriber, #659) [Link] (8 responses)

You didn't review Fedora Linux 34, you reviewed Fedora Linux 34 Workstation. I know you are surely aware of all of the other spins that exist. What's new in KDE Plasma? I think they are switching to Wayland by default.

F34 Workstation

Posted Apr 15, 2021 17:07 UTC (Thu) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link]

Point taken, sorry for any confusion there.

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Posted Apr 16, 2021 15:09 UTC (Fri) by mcatanzaro (subscriber, #93033) [Link] (2 responses)

In the interests of making naming as confusing as possible, it's just "Fedora Workstation."

Looking forward to Fedora 34

Posted Apr 19, 2021 20:14 UTC (Mon) by calumapplepie (guest, #143655) [Link] (1 responses)

Don't you mean "Fedora Workstation Linux: GNU's Not Unix Gold Deluxe Original First Edition: DRM-free First Release"?

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Posted Apr 22, 2021 23:48 UTC (Thu) by AdamW (subscriber, #48457) [Link]

Day 1 Edition

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Posted Apr 22, 2021 14:17 UTC (Thu) by nescafe (subscriber, #45063) [Link] (1 responses)

I hope not -- Plasma still does not have the notion of a primary display when running under Wayland, which makes any combination of multi-monitor and suspend annoying as hell to deal with.

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Posted Apr 22, 2021 16:39 UTC (Thu) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]

I'm lost. What does a primary display have to do with suspending?

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Posted Apr 30, 2021 7:17 UTC (Fri) by jem (subscriber, #24231) [Link] (1 responses)

I used Wayland on KDE Plasma for several years, but had to switch back to X11 a while ago because HiDPI support suddenly broke. What are people using with HiDPI screens?

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Posted Apr 30, 2021 14:02 UTC (Fri) by zlynx (guest, #2285) [Link]

Wayland gnome-shell for me.

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Posted Apr 15, 2021 20:27 UTC (Thu) by gray_-_wolf (subscriber, #131074) [Link] (1 responses)

I wonder how many scripts out there are parsing /etc/os-release and matching on Fedora.

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Posted Apr 15, 2021 23:15 UTC (Thu) by vstinner (subscriber, #42675) [Link]

/etc/os-release contains some fields to be display for humans, and some fields which should be parsed by programs. I understood that ID=fedora should be used by programs and is not changed, as explained in the accepted Fedora 35 Change:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Fedora_Linux_in_os...

* NAME: "suitable for presentation to the user"
* ID: "lower-case string identifying the operating system, excluding any version information and suitable for processing by scripts or usage in generated filenames"

https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/os-relea...

Looking forward to Fedora 34

Posted Apr 15, 2021 22:04 UTC (Thu) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]

Looks like the wait is for new shim, among other things. Apparently, some Dell and other machines do not boot properly with the latest available build of shim. The fixes are known, if I'm understanding correctly, but I am not sure whether the project is waiting on Microsoft to sign the new binaries or something else. Anyway, I'm sure it won't be long.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1938630

Looking forward to Fedora 34

Posted Apr 15, 2021 23:43 UTC (Thu) by clump (subscriber, #27801) [Link]

Fedora 34 was my first exposure to GNOME 40. I like the return to ctrl-alt-left/right to switch desktops. I don't use activities, so pressing esc on every startup got old. While there's no config option to disable that behavior, fortunately you can use the No Overview extension: https://github.com/fthx/no-overview

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Posted Apr 16, 2021 1:49 UTC (Fri) by rsidd (subscriber, #2582) [Link] (34 responses)

I wasn't aware of PipeWire, so looked it up. The page says:
Alongside Wayland and Flatpak we expect PipeWire to provide a core building block for the future of Linux application development.
Which makes me uneasy, since I'm still using xorg and dpkg/apt, and will be continuing to do so for years, probably. I remember the pain and controversy caused by pulseaudio when it was introduced, but now the setup basically works. (It works better than my android phone, in my opinion: in particular, playing multiple streams simultaneously.) Was a new system really needed here?

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Posted Apr 16, 2021 3:50 UTC (Fri) by pabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link] (28 responses)

PulseAudio was apparently hard to re-architect to support a more refined access model, so the new system was needed. It also brings other things like replacing JACK too. PipeWire is also in Debian too, so no problem there. There was an LWN article recently about PipeWire:

https://lwn.net/Articles/847412/

BTW, Xorg is basically abandonware now, they have no-one left to do releases, while Xwayland still does.

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Posted Apr 16, 2021 6:26 UTC (Fri) by rsidd (subscriber, #2582) [Link] (9 responses)

Interesting, thanks. I missed that coverage.

About xorg, it seems to be having regular releases of individual components, though no "full release"? The last xorg-server release was a couple of days ago, and various updates to drivers, apps, utils, etc also occurred in 2021.

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Posted Apr 16, 2021 13:25 UTC (Fri) by daenzer (subscriber, #7050) [Link] (8 responses)

> The last xorg-server release was a couple of days ago, [...]

That's 1.20.11, a bug-fix release (triggered by a security advisory; that was the same with 1.20.9 & 1.20.10, a pattern seems to be forming there :).

The last major xserver release was 1.20.0 in May 2018. There's no schedule yet for another major release.

The Xwayland 21.1.0 release was last month, I expect to make the next major release early next year at the latest.

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Posted Apr 23, 2021 8:18 UTC (Fri) by anton (subscriber, #25547) [Link] (7 responses)

Does not sound like abandonware to me at all. It's maintained software.

Concerning Wayland, last I heard about it's missing features, Wayland advocates were trying to do the Jedi trick of claiming "You don't need these features". That trick did not work on me. So, does Wayland now have all the features that X has? In particular, can it display on a remote computer?

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Posted Apr 23, 2021 8:22 UTC (Fri) by pabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link] (4 responses)

Remote display is provided by waypipe, which was a 2019 GSoC project and continues to be developed:

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mstoeckl/waypipe/
https://mstoeckl.com/notes/gsoc/blog.html

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Posted Apr 29, 2021 16:16 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] (3 responses)

/me wonders about the large stock of X-based fullscreen games, mostly using OpenGL... presumably these will work fine in XWayland?

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Posted Apr 29, 2021 16:27 UTC (Thu) by daenzer (subscriber, #7050) [Link] (1 responses)

Yes, they do.

Xwayland can also transparently set up fullscreen ones to be scaled up to fill the screen. This works for any resolution, e.g. xgalaga uses 468x596 by default.

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Posted May 8, 2021 2:14 UTC (Sat) by flussence (guest, #85566) [Link]

Quarantining resolution changes through software is honestly a thing that might convince me to switch off of xorg-server.

It baffles me that no OS I've ever used up to this point handles things with weird fullscreen resolutions gracefully (even win32); I almost always have to waste several minutes afterwards moving everything back to the correct place, or worse, manually fixing the display when something changes it and crashes.

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Posted Apr 29, 2021 23:49 UTC (Thu) by pabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link]

Some games work with XWayland, others don't. For eg chromium-bsu input stuff is quite broken unless you set SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland, which causes SDL to be a Wayland client instead of X11 client.

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Posted Apr 29, 2021 7:34 UTC (Thu) by cmm (guest, #81305) [Link] (1 responses)

My only problem with Wayland is actually Gnome-related: when gnome-shell crashes (which it does sometimes for me, probably due to buggy extensions?), on Xorg you barely notice, but on Wayland you lose your whole desktop session.

I'm really, honest-to-god, not trying to flame here, but this design decision is nothing short of mind-boggling, and I'm not aware of any plans to fix this.

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Posted Apr 29, 2021 8:55 UTC (Thu) by pabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link]

Arcan has had crash resilient Wayland compositing since 2017:

https://arcan-fe.com/2017/12/24/crash-resilient-wayland-compositing/

AFAIK, none of the other Wayland compositors implement the strategies listed in the above blog post.

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Posted Apr 16, 2021 19:23 UTC (Fri) by motiejus (subscriber, #92837) [Link] (17 responses)

> BTW, Xorg is basically abandonware now, they have no-one left to do releases, while Xwayland still does.

I am using awesome[1] as my WM. Would it work under xwayland?

Please don't suggest sway or i3; I tried to get used to it for a few months, but, having spent many years with awesome, my mental model on how multiple monitors are managed seemed too difficult to overwrite.

[1]: https://awesomewm.org/

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Posted Apr 16, 2021 19:39 UTC (Fri) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link] (15 responses)

All it would ever do was manage X windows. Wayland windows would be completely invisible to it.

FWIW, I'm largely in the same boat (though I use XMonad).

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Posted Apr 16, 2021 22:45 UTC (Fri) by pabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link] (8 responses)

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Posted Apr 17, 2021 12:42 UTC (Sat) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link] (7 responses)

I have seen these before. They're largely in the same state as when I last checked about a year ago :( . Alas, I don't have time to pick up Wayland work onto my plate. Waycooler is also stalled and taiwins doesn't seem to have the power I'm used to having. I suspect I'll end up living in Sway, but i3 was really lacking in power that I have in my .xmonad.hs :( .

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Posted Apr 17, 2021 13:06 UTC (Sat) by motiejus (subscriber, #92837) [Link] (6 responses)

Likewise for awesome — there are/have been multiple attempts (way-cooler, taiwins), but none of them ready "yet".

I believe Xorg will stay alive and active for at least the next 5-10 years. Many things can happen during that time, including new WMs.

I will just keep using Xorg for now and keep waiting.

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Posted Apr 23, 2021 8:24 UTC (Fri) by anton (subscriber, #25547) [Link] (5 responses)

And maybe in the meantime someone will come along and claim that Wayland is old crusty, and does not solve problems this and that, and that we should now change to the new, shiny Y instead.

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Posted Apr 25, 2021 0:05 UTC (Sun) by flussence (guest, #85566) [Link]

Y-Windows was already done. Like Zeroinstall from the same era, it went largely ignored because enterprise types couldn't figure out how to monetise it.

Look forward to 10-15 years from now when Fedora throws out Wayland for something that looks suspiciously like Arcan.

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Posted May 3, 2021 8:18 UTC (Mon) by oldtomas (guest, #72579) [Link] (2 responses)

Heh :-)

I'm hoping to be able to leapfrog Wayland, as I (nearly, not convinced thoroughly yet) managed to leapfrog Pulse (with warm thanks to apulse: I'm looking at you, Firefox. Sternly!)

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Posted May 4, 2021 1:16 UTC (Tue) by pabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link] (1 responses)

By leapfrog, do you mean stick to what came before? Normally it means skip over something switching to the next thing after that. For pulseaudio that would mean you already switched to pipewire. For Wayland I doubt there is a "next thing", but some competitors include Ubuntu/Canonical Mir (that got turned into a Wayland compositor though), Arcan (Wayland is just a plugin for it), Android SurfaceFlinger, probably something in ChromeOS and of course the Windows/macOS/iOS/etc windowing stacks. There may be more I have not heard about though.

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Posted May 4, 2021 11:38 UTC (Tue) by oldtomas (guest, #72579) [Link]

> By leapfrog, do you mean stick to what came before?

See below

> Normally it means skip over something switching to the next thing after that.

s/the next/some next/

Actually, the first part quoted from you is a "future leapfrog", if you squint. By sticking to what came before you sit and hope something better than the currently successor options comes around. Things don't stand still, anyway.

And since my text was formulated in some kind of "future" mode ("I'm hoping to be able to..."), I think I can answer "yes to both".

I'm old. Perhaps I'm EOL'd before X disappears. The frog becomes moot: its leap stops in mid-air.

Perhaps something comes up which appeals to me more than Wayland. Then I'll perhaps achieve the frog leap.

In the meantime, I'll look into pipewire, although some little voice tells me: "you won't like it". But I consider looking into that as a duty.

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Posted May 3, 2021 10:29 UTC (Mon) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

Actually, I think you'll find that Wayland will be extended, not superseded.

Wayland is the protocol, Watson is the compositor. Arcan is clearly an alternative compositor.

I don't really know what's what - I'm still on KDE 4 on my gentoo system - but the idea definitely is that the compositor can be switched out for different features. The protocol means that stuff will keep working ...

Cheers,
Wol

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Posted Apr 17, 2021 1:38 UTC (Sat) by rsidd (subscriber, #2582) [Link] (4 responses)

I use i3 (+xfce on my laptop). While swaywm looks like the solution for i3 users, there is no plan yet to port xfce, apparently. In principle I could get by without xfce, but on a laptop I find the xfce panel convenient.

When I have some free time perhaps I will give sway a spin.

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Posted Apr 17, 2021 3:00 UTC (Sat) by pabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link] (3 responses)

The Xfce folks are porting to GTK3, which should get them application/panel support for Wayland. Some more info about their plans here, sounds like full Wayland support is a goal:

https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap

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Posted Apr 17, 2021 3:28 UTC (Sat) by rsidd (subscriber, #2582) [Link] (2 responses)

xfce 4.16 already uses gtk3 and has dropped gtk2. Maybe the panel will work. Applications should anyway work under xwayland; maybe the panel will too?

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Posted Apr 17, 2021 4:26 UTC (Sat) by rbtree (guest, #129790) [Link] (1 responses)

Most of XFCE applications work under wayland natively thanks to GTK3. I've been using half of XFCE under Sway without any major problems (tab switching in xfce4-terminal was pretty buggy, but seems to be working fine now).

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Posted Apr 17, 2021 5:20 UTC (Sat) by rsidd (subscriber, #2582) [Link]

Thanks for the feedback. I will consider this at some point when I feel like disturbing my setup a little!

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Posted Apr 18, 2021 9:13 UTC (Sun) by flussence (guest, #85566) [Link]

For an environment that's only running X programs that seems like a reasonable limitation to work with. I'm assuming it'd be just like running Xgl back in the early compiz days.

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Posted Apr 16, 2021 22:45 UTC (Fri) by pabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link]

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Posted Apr 16, 2021 12:15 UTC (Fri) by vstinner (subscriber, #42675) [Link] (4 responses)

> Which makes me uneasy, since I'm still using xorg and dpkg/apt, and will be continuing to do so for years

You missed "Seamless support for PulseAudio, JACK, ALSA and GStreamer applications." on the homepage. You don't have to modify your applications. You should not notice the transition to PipeWire ;-)

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Posted Apr 16, 2021 19:21 UTC (Fri) by motiejus (subscriber, #92837) [Link] (3 responses)

I use pnmixer[1] (pulseaudio volume configurator in system tray) and pavucontrol [2] to control volume/mute-unmute(1) and sinks(2). Will these both work with pipewire? Or are there equivalent widgets?

[1]: https://github.com/nicklan/pnmixer
[2]: https://freedesktop.org/software/pulseaudio/pavucontrol/

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Posted Apr 16, 2021 21:30 UTC (Fri) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

Both of these should continue to work as is because of PipeWire PulseAudio compatibility. If not, report bugs.

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Posted Apr 17, 2021 1:01 UTC (Sat) by salimma (subscriber, #34460) [Link]

Both should work, pavucontrol definitely does from personal experience. pipewire-pulse provides the functionality that the pulseaudio daemon does, and is started automatically.

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Posted May 3, 2021 14:09 UTC (Mon) by sandsmark (guest, #62172) [Link]

I recently wanted to use some jack applications, and getting pulseaudio and jack to work nicely together was ... not a simple task to put it mildly.

But then a friend of mine mentioned that he had just switched to pipewire. I had the same bad memories as you have, so I wasted a week trying to get jack to work without breaking applications using alsa/pulseaudio before testing pipewire.

Pipewire has been a seamless drop-in for jack, pulseaudio and plain old alsa applications. The only issue I had was that I relied on a dumb pulseaudio detail in my mixer (excuse the insane URL: https://github.com/sandsmark/pavucontrol-qt/commit/c70dfe...), otherwise it has been completely seamless. And it was as simple as just installing pipewire and uninstalling pulseaudio.

Everything else just works (including mixers), and somehow pulseaudio and jack applications work perfectly side-by-side as if they both used the same API.

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Posted Apr 16, 2021 12:14 UTC (Fri) by el_totsira (guest, #102985) [Link] (2 responses)

> The notion that weather information for Colorado comes from the Norwegian Meteorological Institute is amusing, but that's the globalized world we live in, evidently.

I find they do quite a good job, actually, although of course the Netherlands is quite a bit closer to Norway than Colorado, US. I like how they provide localised weather predictions for practically anything that's populated enough to be called by a name (again, around here; YMMV) and in my experience the general gist of their predictions is more accurate than other weather services. Also, on their old website (https://retro.yr.no, or for instance https://retro.yr.no/place/United_States/Colorado/Boulder/...), the graph under "Hour by hour -> Detailed" really is quite detailed.

Re: Norwegian Meteorological Institute

Posted Apr 20, 2021 8:41 UTC (Tue) by Nemo_bis (guest, #88187) [Link] (1 responses)

It's surely better than sending every user's IP address and assorted PII n to AccuWeather or other data miners.

Norway is one of the few jurisdictions where the GDPR is actually being enforced:
https://noyb.eu/en/gay-dating-app-grindr-be-fined-almost-...

Re: Norwegian Meteorological Institute

Posted Apr 27, 2021 15:50 UTC (Tue) by gspr (subscriber, #91542) [Link]

The Norwegian Meterological Insitute data is CC-licensed, so in theory Fedora could quite easily provide a caching layer for it to shield their users' privacy if they wanted.

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Posted Apr 16, 2021 13:19 UTC (Fri) by tartina (guest, #120603) [Link]

Well, pipewire cannot replace Jack IMHO at this moments, there are some professional audio apps that do not work well with pipewire, but do so with Jack, see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1946006

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Posted Apr 16, 2021 13:27 UTC (Fri) by daenzer (subscriber, #7050) [Link]

> For this Fedora release, PipeWire is only used for audio data.

PipeWire is also used for video data with screen capture.

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Posted Apr 16, 2021 15:11 UTC (Fri) by mcatanzaro (subscriber, #93033) [Link] (1 responses)

Note that btrfs transparent compression will only be used for new installs. For upgraded systems, you'll want to edit /etc/fstab to enable compress=zstd:1.

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Posted Apr 16, 2021 16:49 UTC (Fri) by rbtree (guest, #129790) [Link]

Also note that this will only apply compression to newly written data. To compress the old data you will need to reboot after changing fstab (or remount root with ↓)

# mount -o remount,compress=zstd:1 /

and defrag the filesystem:

# btrfs filesystem defragment -r / ~

(both paths are needed because in Fedora they point to different subvolumes, and defrag does not descend into subvolumes by itself.)

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Posted Apr 16, 2021 19:25 UTC (Fri) by jafd (subscriber, #129642) [Link]

> it switched over to the PulseAudio system for all of its sound handling. This transition, it is fair to say, generated a fair amount of noise

I don't know if this phrasing is intended, but I like it very much.

The noise was, in some cases, quite literal. As was crackling. ;-)

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Posted Apr 18, 2021 13:50 UTC (Sun) by hadess (subscriber, #24252) [Link]

> First-time users might be forgiven for wondering what they are looking at, though.

First-time users will get a “Welcome to GNOME 40” dialogue, from which they can launch the new GNOME Tour application. You might have missed it after your installation, or a Fedora specific bug crept in.

Fedora Linux vs. Linux Foundation trademark claims

Posted Apr 20, 2021 11:10 UTC (Tue) by Nemo_bis (guest, #88187) [Link]

> Incidentally, your editor has been made aware that we are all supposed to call the distribution "Fedora Linux" now, with the bare name "Fedora" reserved for the project. So this article should properly be talking about "Fedora Linux 34", but old habits die hard.

Someone else seems to have missed the memo too: there's no mention of "Fedora Linux" in https://getfedora.org/ or https://www.redhat.com/en/topics/linux/fedora-vs-red-hat-... .

> The Fedora project is the upstream, community distro of Red Hat® Enterprise Linux.

Out of curiosity I checked https://www.linuxfoundation.org/the-linux-mark/ :

> If you plan to market a Linux-based product or service to the public using a trademark that includes the element “Linux,” such as “Super Dooper Linux OS” or “Real Time Linux Consultants” you are required to apply for and obtain a sublicense from the Linux Foundation. This is true whether or not you apply to register your trademark with a government.
>
> When you are using the Linux mark pursuant to a sublicense, it should never be used as a verb or noun. It should be used only as an adjective followed by the generic name/noun. In other words, “Super Dooper Linux OS” is okay, but “Super Dooper Linux” isn’t.

Some of those restrictions (e.g. on verbs) are the usual silly things that trademark lawyers need to say in order not to lose a trademark, whether the trademark owner actually cares or not. Some others were new to me.

Looking forward to Fedora 34

Posted Apr 28, 2021 16:29 UTC (Wed) by thoeme (subscriber, #2871) [Link] (1 responses)

>For most, though, GNOME has stabilized into >something that we can work with and even >not swear at more than a few times per day.

We are currently fighting a remote login problem concerning gnome-vncserver, and I can tell you that the swearing is constantly going on... Even our Gnome-fan lost his cool ;-)

A KDE fan, Thoeme

Looking forward to Fedora 34

Posted Apr 29, 2021 7:24 UTC (Thu) by kragil (guest, #34373) [Link]

Hot corner top left and the app launcher at the bottom is so obviously unintelligent, that there must be an option to change it.

But giving users options is the devil, I know :-(


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