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US Supreme Court rules for Google over Oracle

Posted Apr 7, 2021 5:51 UTC (Wed) by gfernandes (subscriber, #119910)
In reply to: US Supreme Court rules for Google over Oracle by rgmoore
Parent article: US Supreme Court rules for Google over Oracle

Everyone has their own perspective /opinion. Having said that, there is no way you can regard the use of a java like language and API for programming Android, as competing with java.

Sun tried from the very beginning, to get java into mobile phones. And failed. Miserably.

So the value add of Android is the transformative use of the java API, clubbed with a Linux kernel, and a custom user land layer.

Don't forget that.

Java, by itself, only ever managed to conquer the server.

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US Supreme Court rules for Google over Oracle

Posted Apr 7, 2021 12:59 UTC (Wed) by plugwash (subscriber, #29694) [Link] (1 responses)

> Sun tried from the very beginning, to get java into mobile phones. And failed. Miserably.

There was a time, before the iphone and andriod took over the world, when J2ME support on phones was not uncommon.

Would android still have taken over the smartphone world if it had not used the Java programming language and APIs? If not would J2ME still be a thing? I doubt anyone really knows.

US Supreme Court rules for Google over Oracle

Posted Apr 8, 2021 18:36 UTC (Thu) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

If Android would have actually supported J2ME then it would have been an open question.

As it is it's pretty obvious that Sun's mobile efforts were largely irrelevant.

Java was used in Android because it was taught in colleges, essentially, not because J2ME was ever viable.