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PipeWire: The Linux audio/video bus

PipeWire: The Linux audio/video bus

Posted Mar 3, 2021 21:19 UTC (Wed) by paravoid (subscriber, #32869)
In reply to: PipeWire: The Linux audio/video bus by smcv
Parent article: PipeWire: The Linux audio/video bus

Thank you so much for all of the efforts here :) The timing is indeed unfortunate! It's kind of a pity that we're missing all the 0.3.{20,21,22} improvements though (AIUI Fedora will release with .22). Perhaps it would be worth asking the Debian release team for a freeze exception for 0.3.22 here so that users could at least have the same level of experience as Fedora 34 users by opting in?

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PipeWire: The Linux audio/video bus

Posted Mar 4, 2021 4:48 UTC (Thu) by simcop2387 (subscriber, #101710) [Link]

This is likely to happen not as a freeze exception but instead as a backport from testing once the release happens. That leaves the known working config in stable and then testing and backports can deal with any lingering issues. It's one reason why I either run testing or backports on my systems (depending on the level of pain I'm willing to deal with at the time).

PipeWire: The Linux audio/video bus

Posted Mar 4, 2021 13:44 UTC (Thu) by smcv (subscriber, #53363) [Link] (1 responses)

If you think you can justify each line of diff to the release team, go for it (I'd suggest talking to Sjoerd, who uploaded 0.3.22 to experimental). Or, if there are individual commits that have a low regression risk and high importance, please go ahead.

However, *I* don't understand the pipewire code well enough to be the one justifying to the release team why we need any particular change, and it still seems to be at the stage of maturity where targeted bug fixes, higher-regression-risk feature work, and harder-to-review refactoring/restructuring are mixed into one stream of commits; so I don't feel comfortable treating it like I would treat a bugfix-only stable-branch, like (say) GNOME Shell 3.38.x.

Sorry, I've done what I can, and if other people can do a better job then I'll be happy to step out of the way, but I am not the person to make this happen myself.

PipeWire: The Linux audio/video bus

Posted Mar 4, 2021 17:29 UTC (Thu) by darwi (subscriber, #131202) [Link]

> However, *I* don't understand the pipewire code well enough to be the one justifying to the release team why we need any particular change

The PipeWire commit logs are also very terse, and a lot of times just one-liners with no further context. IMHO, the project should really improve its commit logs from now on, especially that distributions are beginning to adopt it by default.

In fairness, the source code was a real beauty to look at; but the commit logs… not so much.


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