Bringing encryption restrictions in through the back door [LWN.net]

Bringing encryption restrictions in through the back door

Posted Mar 19, 2020 22:51 UTC (Thu) by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
In reply to: Bringing encryption restrictions in through the back door by ILMostro
Parent article: Bringing encryption restrictions in through the back door

The problem is that America (and many Americans) expect everybody INCLUDING NON-AMERICANS to act in America's best interest. COME ON!!! Why on earth should I behave in a manner I perceive as NOT being in my interest, to benefit a bunch of people I have no interest in?

I'm very much a socialist - not a "Big Government" socialist, but there are a lot of places where I believe collective - ENFORCED - action is very much to the net advantage of the people involved. And I see America with its Capitalist, "Devil take the hindmost", Wild West attitude as the enemy.

Until I feel that America sees us as an equal, and not as a small nation to be ignored, dictated to or taken advantage of, I'm not going to trust them. Sorry if that offends American sensibilities, but that is the way many outside of America perceive it.

Cheers,
Wol

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Bringing encryption restrictions in through the back door

Posted Mar 20, 2020 4:14 UTC (Fri) by dvdeug (subscriber, #10998) [Link] (2 responses)

You're demanding something you're not offering. Why on earth should the US behave in a manner NOT being in its best interest, to benefit a bunch of foreigners in a foreign nation? I seriously doubt that Germany treats San Marino or Haiti as equals, instead of small nations to be dictated to. I'm pretty sure Greece has some complaints in that department about Germany, as well. For another perspective, the US treats Germany as a equal in the same way that the German soccer team treats the US soccer team as an equal; we'll meet you on field of battle, but we're not going to let you score against us unless you can force us to let you score.

I don't ask for you to trust the US, whatever that means. What I do ask is that you don't act like China or Russia are more trustworthy, and that you don't turn a blind eye when other democratic nations push forward encryption restrictions or the like.

> And I see America with its Capitalist, "Devil take the hindmost", Wild West attitude as the enemy.

It's funny that you post this on an article about how America is being uncapitalist by restricting corporations in the name of the public good.

Bringing encryption restrictions in through the back door

Posted Mar 20, 2020 13:00 UTC (Fri) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

> You're demanding something you're not offering.

I'm not. It helps if you read what I wrote. I most definitely do not expect Americans to disadvantage themselves in my favour - I object to them expecting me to disadvantage myself.

If you offer me a "win win", I'll take it. If I want something from you, I'll try and offer a "win win". America just ASSUMES we'll be happy with a "win lose", when we're the ones losing. NO WAY!!!

Cheers,
Wol

Bringing encryption restrictions in through the back door

Posted Mar 20, 2020 13:03 UTC (Fri) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

> It's funny that you post this on an article about how America is being uncapitalist by restricting corporations in the name of the public good.

Isn't the article about America restricting corporations FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE STATE (and the *un*benefit of the public good)?

All hail the minister of the Department For Truth ...

Cheers,
Wol