Better tools for kernel developers

Posted Feb 8, 2020 13:17 UTC (Sat) by gfernandes (subscriber, #119910)
In reply to: Better tools for kernel developers by pizza
Parent article: Better tools for kernel developers

>>The entire Linux kernel mentality is centered around Fixing Things the Right Way(tm)

...by using the **wrong** tool (aka email)?

Email may have been the **only** way to get things done in the 70's. But that's not too say it was the **right** tool then. Most certainly, it is **not** the right tool **now**.

Better tools for kernel developers

Posted Feb 9, 2020 0:22 UTC (Sun) by andyc (subscriber, #1130) [Link]

> ...by using the **wrong** tool (aka email)?

> Email may have been the **only** way to get things done in the 70's. But that's not too say it was the **right** tool then.
> Most certainly, it is **not** the right tool **now**.

Opinions vary...

Better tools for kernel developers

Posted Feb 9, 2020 4:05 UTC (Sun) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link] (3 responses)

Email remains the *only* fully federated communication tool out there.

Everything else has dissolved into balkanized silos whose primary goal is to monetize the user.

Better tools for kernel developers

Posted Feb 12, 2020 17:37 UTC (Wed) by flussence (guest, #85566) [Link] (2 responses)

XMPP works well too, now that the silos have given up trying and failing to weaponise it against each other.

Better tools for kernel developers

Posted Feb 12, 2020 17:56 UTC (Wed) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link]

The entire federated XMPP userbase is barely a rounding error when compared to even one of the current IM silos.

...And if you think getting a usable semi-custom email workflow is too difficult... XMPP is an order of magnitude worse, with significantly worse tooling.

(I still have an XMPP server going for my domains. In the past few years, I've received a total of *zero* non-spam messages..)

Better tools for kernel developers

Posted Feb 12, 2020 18:06 UTC (Wed) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

> XMPP works well too, now that the silos have given up trying and failing to weaponise it against each other.

XMPP has failed to get any traction because none of the implementations could be expected to be reasonably compatible with each other. That was the practical consequence of being extensible and having different features bolted on. Matrix has higher momentum now