Firefox 70 released [LWN.net]

Firefox 70 released

Posted Oct 23, 2019 14:21 UTC (Wed) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389)
In reply to: Firefox 70 released by rsidd
Parent article: Firefox 70 released

There was discussion on Hacker News[1] about how Google Translate has fallen behind in numerous ways. Maybe it's seen as good as long as one endpoint is English rather than doing non-English to non-English translation?

[1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21321541

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Firefox 70 released

Posted Oct 25, 2019 7:18 UTC (Fri) by flussence (guest, #85566) [Link] (1 responses)

That's not surprising. Anything at Google that doesn't contribute to their main business of paperclip-maximizing mass surveillance and human manipulation is usually killed off or left to bitrot. The translate service, being a primarily on-demand thing, wasn't spared.

Firefox 70 released

Posted Oct 25, 2019 8:35 UTC (Fri) by rsidd (subscriber, #2582) [Link]

The link in the GP didn't say Google had become worse, only that another (DeepL) was better. I wasn't aware of DeepL -- thanks for that.

I gave both a quick shot at a passage from today's Le Monde. Here are the results. While DeepL is impressive, it's certainly not better than Google: it translates l'engin as "the aircraft" and uses the odd (if not ungrammatical) phrase "rescued the passengers while injured himself". DeepL also translates "choc" to "shock" rather than "impact" which is more appropriate. On the other hand, Google mangles the next line to "This is what says, Friday, October 25, the management of the company", which DeepL gets correct. I'd call it a toss.

And Google is the only realistic choice for non-western languages. But of course I hope DeepL and others catch up: we need competition.

Original:
La SNCF va « renforcer les équipements d’alerte radio en cas de choc important » pour les autorails grande capacité (AGC). C’est ce que dit, vendredi 25 octobre, la direction de la société dans un courrier accompagnant un rapport interne sur l’accident survenu mercredi 16 octobre, quand un TER reliant Charleville-Mézières à Reims a percuté un convoi routier exceptionnel coincé sur un passage à niveau. Onze personnes avaient été blessées. Le conducteur, qui a porté secours aux passagers alors qu’il était lui-même blessé, était le seul agent SNCF à bord du train. La collision a par ailleurs endommagé des organes d’alerte essentiels de l’engin.

Google:
SNCF will "reinforce radio warning equipment in the event of a major impact" for high-capacity railcars (MCO). This is what says, Friday, October 25, the management of the company in a letter accompanying an internal report on the accident occurred Wednesday, October 16, when a TER connecting Charleville-Mézières to Reims hit an exceptional road convoy stuck on a Railroad Crossing. Eleven people were injured. The driver, who rescued passengers while he himself was injured, was the only SNCF agent on the train. The collision also damaged vital warning devices of the machine.

DeepL:
SNCF will "reinforce the radio alert equipment in the event of a major shock" for high-capacity railcars (AGC). This is what the company's management said on Friday, October 25, in a letter accompanying an internal report on the accident that occurred on Wednesday, October 16, when a TER linking Charleville-Mézières to Reims struck an exceptional road convoy stuck on a level crossing. Eleven people were injured. The driver, who rescued the passengers while injured himself, was the only SNCF agent on board the train. The collision also damaged essential warning devices of the aircraft.