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It is with sadness that we report that Linux Journal has ceased publication. The magazine announced its demise at the end of 2017, then was happily reborn in early 2018, but apparently that was not to last. Editor Kyle Rankin posted "An Awkward Goodbye" on August 7. "After dying and being revived, it was finally starting to look like some day soon we would be able to walk on our own. Unfortunately, we didn't get healthy enough fast enough, and when we found out we needed to walk on our own strength, we simply couldn't. So here we are giving our second, much more awkward, goodbye. What happens now? We gave each other a proper hug during the first goodbye, do we hug again this time? Do we do the hand-shake-that-turns-into-a-single-arm-hug thing? Do we just sort of wave and smile?" LJ will be missed.

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Posted Aug 8, 2019 4:16 UTC (Thu) by unixbhaskar (guest, #44758) [Link]

Heck ...it was a good source to gain knowledge ...

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Posted Aug 8, 2019 5:33 UTC (Thu) by pr1268 (guest, #24648) [Link]

I kind of hope that these reports of LJ's demise are exaggerated... Didn't this almost happen to LWN once before?

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Posted Aug 8, 2019 10:33 UTC (Thu) by wazoox (subscriber, #69624) [Link] (8 responses)

This:

"It became clearer than ever to me that while Linux and FOSS had won the battle over the tech giants a decade before, new ones had taken their place in the meantime, and we were letting them win."

"Realism", "pragmatism", "neutrality" and "Open Source" did this. RMS was right. Always was, and still is.

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Posted Aug 8, 2019 14:48 UTC (Thu) by rsidd (subscriber, #2582) [Link] (7 responses)

Today Microsoft (the "enemy" of those days) is hosting Github, contributing to the linux kernel, open-sourcing Vcode and other stuff that they originated, and will soon ship a full Linux kernel as part of the "linux subsystem" on Windows 10.

The new tech giants are all full-time contributors to, as well as users of, open source.

I have a hard time imagining Stallman achieving all of that with his fundamentalist stance.

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Posted Aug 8, 2019 16:17 UTC (Thu) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link]

The dirty secret is that of those giants, only Microsoft "sells" software [1]; they all make their real money by providing services at scale, either for a direct fee (this includes transaction fees ala the App Store), or by selling advertising based on data they get from those services. Or both.

So it's no surprise they are giving away their software (or working with their nominal competitors in cartels, I mean trade-groups). As well as funnelling users into their services, it helps keep out potential upstarts and also acts as a powerful recruiting tool.

[1] Services are 1/3 - 1/2 of their revenue. Possibly more, but they don't break down their financials in that much detail.

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Posted Aug 9, 2019 6:35 UTC (Fri) by gfernandes (subscriber, #119910) [Link]

Yeah? You think?

Is this why nothing in Android, apart from the kernel is GPL licensed?

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Posted Aug 9, 2019 6:42 UTC (Fri) by gfernandes (subscriber, #119910) [Link] (4 responses)

Without the GPL, none of this, that Open Source phanbois are quick to claim credit for, would've happened.

You only need look as far as the BSDs to see this.

Without the GPL, GNU/Linux would've been pretty much the same. A marginal, hobbyist OS that large corporates randomly plagiarise with no obligation to give anything back.

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Posted Aug 9, 2019 13:47 UTC (Fri) by flussence (guest, #85566) [Link] (3 responses)

>Without the GPL, GNU/Linux would've been pretty much the same. A marginal, hobbyist OS that large corporates randomly plagiarise with no obligation to give anything back.

Which is exactly what the Linux Foundation's member corporations are doing to the people who build Linux on a daily basis. How many core pieces of the ecosystem can you name that even receive recognition for their efforts, let alone fair recompense?

It's no wonder we ended up with loose cannons like Patrick McHardy.

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Posted Aug 9, 2019 14:26 UTC (Fri) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link] (1 responses)

I think that what the peanut gallery fails to grasp is that most of the *people* that wrote this core/foundational stuff did so because they believed in RMS-esque user-empowering Free Software ideals, but most of the *users* (especially on the corporate side) only saw this stuff as a way to reduce their software costs. And thus "Open Source" whitewashing was born.

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Posted Aug 9, 2019 18:58 UTC (Fri) by k8to (guest, #15413) [Link]

Really? This seems pretty obvious to me.

What is unclear to me is whether the specific sales pitch of open source actually changed anything. Would be in the same position if that particular piece of marketing had never happened? I'm suspicious we would, roughly.

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Posted Aug 25, 2019 22:18 UTC (Sun) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link]

If ever, and whenever, you get a chance to question Linux Foundation people ask them if they think that software that is made to link to and depend intimately on the details of GPL software must be distributed in accordance with the GPL licence (i.e., whether it derives from the GPL) or not.

E.g., I can not get Mike Dolan (mdolan here) to answer that question directly.

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Posted Aug 8, 2019 10:58 UTC (Thu) by digilink (guest, #133655) [Link]

I was very sad to see this news this morning. LJ was an amazing publication, and went very in-depth with their technical articles. I learned an absolute ton from them, they will be sorely missed.

I was a subscriber for nearly two decades.

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Posted Aug 8, 2019 14:09 UTC (Thu) by karkhaz (subscriber, #99844) [Link] (17 responses)

This is very sad.

Between the 2017 announcement and this one, Rankin wrote an article about LJ's resurrection and the lessons he learned about FOSS culture:

https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/what-linux-journals-...

He attributes LJ's shutting down to them being irresponsive to the changing FOSS community and culture, and has some insightful things to say about that. The last four paragraphs of that article, in particular, are pure gold.

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Posted Aug 8, 2019 15:11 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] (16 responses)

I don't believe that someone who can recite the TCP handshake protocol, get into flame wars on proper mailing list etiquette and can quote the entire Klingon coming-of-age ceremony (in Klingon!) finds human social protocols unknowable.
If you want a potted definition of 'neurotypical privilege', that quote would be it. He's *ever* so wrong. (And in any case, even if we can parse human social protocols, speed matters: if it takes half an hour of deep thought to figure out what's going on in all but the most stereotyped cases, that's too slow to be of any practical use in a normal conversation. It's fine for things like email though.)

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Posted Aug 8, 2019 19:03 UTC (Thu) by k8to (guest, #15413) [Link] (2 responses)

Sure, and your reminder is valuable. But I think a lot of us have the privelege and still aren't making serious attempts.

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Posted Aug 11, 2019 17:18 UTC (Sun) by gnu_lorien (subscriber, #44036) [Link] (1 responses)

I know my experience far more often is with people that seem to fall into this "aren't making serious attempts" category. It feels like this article is talking specifically to that sort of person, rather than anybody with genuine neurological differences, by saying "This also means continuing to work on empathy and social skills." It feels like a direct response to something I hear a lot that these empathy and social skills don't matter and only the code matters. I used to be one of those sorts, so it stings to hear, but it's completely right.

I'm sad that he offended people that can't do this, because it feels like a very well-stated call to action for those of us that just don't want to and otherwise have nothing other than our preference for intentionally being jerks standing in the way.

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Posted Aug 13, 2019 7:10 UTC (Tue) by k8to (guest, #15413) [Link]

IMO, industry behavior inculcates this if it wasn't already present.

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Posted Aug 8, 2019 21:13 UTC (Thu) by antiphase (subscriber, #111993) [Link]

Agreed. If all of this guy's writing is similarly borderline-offensive to a wide range of people, I'm not surprised they're going out of business if he's at the helm, nor am I sad about it.

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Posted Aug 9, 2019 10:46 UTC (Fri) by vadim (subscriber, #35271) [Link] (10 responses)

I think it's not even always a question of neurotypical or not, but a question of practice with the skill, society not being terribly friendly about learning it in adulthood, and people having innate reactions that complicate things.

1. Society in general assumes you absorbed the basic lessons during childhood. There's no "manual of small talk" that's readily available, it's assumed you just absorbed such things by cultural osmosis. As a result many people will have trouble explaining all the nuances they themselves follow, because they don't quite know why.
2. Some types of mistakes turn people off or creep them out, and so it can be hard to make progress. A compiler won't refuse to ever deal with you again if you need 50 tries to get some code working, people absolutely will.
3. Despite many nerds' presumption for being logical we all have inbuilt biases and all hate being told "you're being an ass" to our faces, even if it's correct, helpful feedback. You can block your own progress by impulsively reacting to something that is true, but hard to hear.

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Posted Aug 12, 2019 5:53 UTC (Mon) by XERC (guest, #14626) [Link] (9 responses)

What is defined as _polite_ also differs in cultures. In Northern-European cultures, think of Norway, Finland, and alike, the American style smalltalk is literally seen as fake talk, lying straight to Your face and getting caught with it right there on the spot, except when some foreigner does it, because thanks to business relations and the Internet the northerners know that the Brits and the Americans and alike do not mean any ill by doing it, id est it's just a form of politeness from the Brits, Americans, etc. part. But with locals the assumption is that they know the local culture and the things that are appreciated are: LACK OF SMALLTALK and talk that is straight to the point and INFORMATIVELY DIRECT.

By informatively direct I mean that an expression that person X is an "asshole"/bastard/etc. is seen simply as an insulting way of saying that the X is not liked, but that kind of expression is NOT considered _informative_, despite it being direct. Informatively correct means telling someone directly, without calling that person an "asshole" or anything else similar, how he could stop doing harm or be more helpful. For example, one may describe, how the ACTIONS of X are creating harm and are in conflict with one's or someone else's interests or if X is inadvertently carrying out the harmful action, then a thorough explanation, how the X's action happens to be harmful.

One difference in what is considered polite in Estonian business etiquette and the typical more-Western business etiquette is that in Estonia THE POLITE WAY to conduct business is to NOT WASTE OTHER PEOPLE's TIME, id est "time is money", so a proper business meeting starts punctually, at most 5-to-10 minutes late, but a correct way is to be on site roughly 2 minutes BEFORE the meeting, but NOT EARLIER, id est if one reaches the office building, where the meeting is to take place, 10min. before the start of the meeting, then one literally AVOIDS BOTHERING THE HOST before the given time and waits outside of the building roughly 8min. and then enters it to be on site about 2min. before the scheduled start of the meeting. In stead of WASTING OTHER PEOPLE'S TIME ON SMALLTALK, remember, "time is money", the _POLITE_ way is to be PREPARED and GET STRAIGHT TO THE MATTER THAT THE MEETING WAS SCHEDULED FOR. As the meeting style is straight-to-the-point-and-without-empty-talk, the meeting usually takes place at a conference room, where the host usually serves coffee, if the guests want it. Coffee is a standard thing that can be expected at any proper Estonian office. Do not expect any meals there, it's just coffee, may be a few candies, may be a biscuit, after all, it's straight-to-the-point business talk, where both parties are expected to be prepared beforehand. It's OK to take time for thinking, but for longer thinking the goal is not to waste other party's time while working on one's own thoughts, so at some point it's smarter to just end the meeting with a conclusion that one needs to work/think about the issues and then schedule a new meeting or let the thinking results known over e-mail. E-mail is preferred to talking on the phone, because with e-mail the recipient can schedule his thoughts, but a phone-call would interrupt the answering party's activities and therefore disturb them.

So, now imagine, how the British or Americans see that kind of a "human-communication-rotocol". What is considered polite by Estonians is literally impolite in the British/American culture. I'm not talking about tech-oriented people specific business etiquette here. I'm talking about the general Estonian business etiquette. Of course, yes, we adopt, we know that the Brits and the Americans and other people from the Old West are different, so we try to adopt ourselves, but to get things done, one just needs some practicality and wasting that much time on commuting or smalltalk or other time-wasters is just not possible in Estonia. The same thing with greeting: in Estonia colleagues say "hi" to each other only once per work day and the Estonian formal greeting of a handshake in stead of kissing or hugging is VERY PRACTICAL during flu outbreaks: it avoids transmission of disease. Actually Russians, including Estonian-Russians (50% of the citizens of the capital of Extonia, Tallinn, speak Russian natively, about 30% of Estonians are actually Estonian-Russians) use handshakes during informal greetings between friends, for example, students in the morning at some university corridor. Native Estonians do not have any physical contact, not even a handshake, when giving a familiar greeting to colleagues, family, friends. Just a simple "Tere!"(translates as "Hello!") from across the room, may be 3 meters away from the other person, and that's it, greeting-protocol done, everyone is happy and it is not considered sloppy or bad tone or something that "uneducated people do", it's the polite familiar way to greet people. And, as I said, in northern regions, where infectious flues are common, specially in the late autumn or early spring, it is also a very PRACTICAL form of greeting.

Interestingly the Estonian saying, "Üheksa korda mõõda, üks kord lõika."(translation: "Measure 9 times before cutting.") is is totally at odds with the American saying, "A quick decision is better than no decision", or even the German joke: "By the time the smart people have completed thinking, the stupid ones have taken over the castle." In my opinion, and I'm a native Estonian, Estonians do not spend enough time on thinking, but it is a fact that Russians tend to consider Estonians to be slow, to the point of even having anecdotes about it (You may look them up Yourself from the WWW), but the thinking is carried out without wasting other people's time. Forests are important in Estonian folklore in many ways and one of the ways is that old Estonians used walks in the forest or other activities, may be picking berries, for calm, thorough, thinking.

Well, all in all, there are different ways to be _polite_ and not all Old West customs are practical to adopt. I as an Estonian think that getting things done quickly without wasting time on smalltalk is a Good Thing and being direct does not have to involve derogatory words or expressions that do not properly inform the accused of the observations about its actions. I also think that often times the culture difference between people with different occupations can be greater than the culture difference between people, who have different nationalities, but who share an occupation, specially in the modern Global World, where scientific works, software, books are distributed globally.

Thank You for reading my comment :-)

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Posted Aug 12, 2019 10:06 UTC (Mon) by sdalley (subscriber, #18550) [Link]

I found that really interesting and worth reading. Thank you!

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Posted Aug 12, 2019 14:00 UTC (Mon) by osma (guest, #6912) [Link]

Thank you, that was a fun read. As a Finn who's also lived in Estonia I can only agree - and in my experience what you write applies to Nordic countries (Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark...) as well. The culture is a lot more introvert around here...

For some fun around these kinds of cultural differences, check out the Finnish Nightmares comics, e.g. http://finnishnightmares.blogspot.com/2015/10/greetings.html and http://finnishnightmares.blogspot.com/2015/10/chit-chat.html (both relevant to situations mentioned in the parent post)

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Posted Aug 12, 2019 14:24 UTC (Mon) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link] (4 responses)

Fascinating. But then, I've known for a long time that cultures are different.

This thing about time-keeping was explained to me a long time ago in the sense that some cultures are manana-time, and others are clock time.

The example of manana time (probably related to Spanish / Catholic culture) was a Carribean church where the bride was (hours) late so a funeral arrived while the wedding was still under way, and a christening was taking place in a side chapel, and nobody gave a monkeys. In a typical anglo-saxon setting the minister would be tearing his hair out :-)

Your Estonian example sounds like a very strict example of clock time - a consequence of the protestant work ethic and factory working. Your typical pre-factory farm worker would have gone by the sun, and five minutes here or there wouldn't even be noticed. (I've been reading Pepys, and their attitude to time keeping is wildly different to ours.)

What you might find useful with "Old West"erners is a trick we often use to mix the two styles of time-keeping. Announce a meeting as "9:30 for 10". That means that tea, coffee, biscuits etc will be there at 9:30 for those who like the small talk, but business will start sharp at 10. It's acceptable to arrive at any point between those two times, but missing the 10 deadline is rude.

Cheers,
Wol

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Posted Aug 12, 2019 16:31 UTC (Mon) by tao (subscriber, #17563) [Link]

As a Swede I've encountered a few cases where I've been invited over to people for a dinner party at, say, 18, arrived punctually and been greeted by a surprised host explaining that they haven't even had time to shower and change yet...

I have at least one acquaintance whom I used to invite 1h earlier than the rest, yet he'd always be the last to arrive.

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Posted Aug 12, 2019 16:40 UTC (Mon) by AlexBH (guest, #133764) [Link]

I've created Linux Journal mirror
Website available here - https://linuxjournal.rocks/
and archive of all magazines are here - https://files.linuxjournal.rocks/

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Posted Aug 12, 2019 21:10 UTC (Mon) by XERC (guest, #14626) [Link] (1 responses)

I'll certainly remember the "9.30 for 10" idea, thank You for that, although I'll probably have difficulties using it, because that would probably assume that the host offers company to the very first guest that does arrive at 9.30 until some other guest arrives and offer some company, smalltalk opportunities, to that very first guest.

Thank You, everybody, for Your answers. In Estonia there is a very old saying: "Igas sadamas leidub vähemalt üks eestlane."(translation: "In every sea-port of the world there exists at least one Estonian.") Given that there's only about 1.4 million Estonians on planet Earth, including the 30% Estonian-Russian population, it's kind of interesting to at least 2 answers to my comment on some "nerd-Linux-forum-from-the-huge-USA"(LWN.net) by people, who either associate themselves genetically to Estonians or have lived in Estonia. I guess the old saying still holds then, just the technology changes :-D

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Posted Aug 13, 2019 21:01 UTC (Tue) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

For anglo-saxons, I wouldn't worry about providing the small-talk yourself. The assumption is that the room and refreshments will be available at the early time, and that everybody will go in to the meeting at the later time. If you are the first to arrive, you have to wait for the next invitee, as the host is assumed to be busy prepping the meeting.

If you've got a junior you can task with keeping the guests happy, so much the better.

Cheers,
Wol

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Posted Aug 12, 2019 15:17 UTC (Mon) by mtaht (guest, #11087) [Link]

That was really an awesome description of a huge difference in cultures. I am estonian to some extent genetically - and to some extent a californian - but I didn't realize until now that things like "measure 9 times until cutting" and "
don't waste your hosts' time" had also made it into how I operate and explains a lot of problems I have with american business folk that i don't have in europe.

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Posted Aug 13, 2019 7:23 UTC (Tue) by k8to (guest, #15413) [Link]

In the US, some amount of small talk in one-on-one communications is expected. You're right.

In meetings with many people, small talk is something engineers wish would go away. But the people who typically run such meetings feel important by engaging in preambles, so they waste time with it. I think it is often about self-importance and power dynamics, and not politeness.

But we do, as a culture, put up with it, rather than dismantling it.

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Posted Aug 13, 2019 14:35 UTC (Tue) by rweikusat2 (subscriber, #117920) [Link]

It's not even particularly fine for e-mail, at least not insofar one has to reply to it: I can easily spend an hour or more agonizing over a single sentence and still end up with something people misinterpret in all kinds of seriously wild ways.

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Posted Aug 8, 2019 15:45 UTC (Thu) by thekozmo (guest, #51489) [Link] (1 responses)

Really sad news, this has been my best source of news about the kernel

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Posted Aug 8, 2019 16:34 UTC (Thu) by XTerminator (subscriber, #59581) [Link]

second to lwn.net of course :-P

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Posted Aug 19, 2019 1:34 UTC (Mon) by fest3er (guest, #60379) [Link]

For what it's worth, I started with a subscription to IEEE Micro back in the late '80s as a non-member. It's been a long time and IIRC, IEEE Micro changed their subscription policy or focus or something and made an agreement with Embedded Linux Journal to accept subscription 'rollovers'. So I started reading ELJ until they ceased publication and transferred my subscription to LJ. To fracture a bad (English language) pun, I enjoyed Amahl.


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