OpenSSH 8.0 released [LWN.net]

OpenSSH 8.0 released

Posted Apr 18, 2019 22:26 UTC (Thu) by epa (subscriber, #39769)
Parent article: OpenSSH 8.0 released

So can scp(1) use the rsync or ftp protocols instead, but with the same command line syntax as before?

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OpenSSH 8.0 released

Posted Apr 18, 2019 22:51 UTC (Thu) by k8to (guest, #15413) [Link] (1 responses)

Rhetorical? I don't think scp has these capabilities.

OpenSSH 8.0 released

Posted Apr 19, 2019 1:33 UTC (Fri) by epa (subscriber, #39769) [Link]

It seems like the obvious step if the old scp protocol is to be killed off. Nobody uses scp because they particularly love the protocol -- it's just for convenience, a familiar command line syntax, or because there are old shell scripts that call it.

OpenSSH 8.0 released

Posted Apr 19, 2019 0:01 UTC (Fri) by perennialmind (guest, #45817) [Link] (3 responses)

Putty's PSCP does what you describe: it has a -sftp and a -scp, defaulting to the former and falling back to the latter. I might have switched to it by now if it consulted ~/.ssh. I rather like the idea of a one-shot command with support for those and a -rsync as well. scp's behavior is trivial to internalize, but what I've internalized for rsync is that it's subtle and that I need to consult the man page every time.

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Posted Apr 21, 2019 0:49 UTC (Sun) by scientes (guest, #83068) [Link] (2 responses)

This is exactly the behavior scp should have. I actually long though they were the same protocol, because I had such good experience using sftp mounted via gvfs in nautilus (although it mounts to POSIX/FUSE with a space in the mount location under ~/.gvfs which is really stupid....)

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Posted Apr 21, 2019 5:17 UTC (Sun) by lkundrak (subscriber, #43452) [Link]

> although it mounts to POSIX/FUSE with a space in the mount location under ~/.gvfs which is really stupid....)

Why is it stupid?

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Posted Apr 21, 2019 9:15 UTC (Sun) by Darkmere (subscriber, #53695) [Link]

I thought it mounted them in /run/$USER/ these days for all mounts?

And, I rather like that behavior of Gnome these days, it means I can do basic exploration in the GUI, and if I want to muck around with my command line tools or services that don't speak that layer, I can just access them as normal filesystems.

Very convenient.