Fedora reawakens the hibernation debate [LWN.net]

Fedora reawakens the hibernation debate

Posted Sep 18, 2018 17:29 UTC (Tue) by mbiebl (subscriber, #41876)
In reply to: Fedora reawakens the hibernation debate by ebassi
Parent article: Fedora reawakens the hibernation debate

We had such a quirks database with hal. I don't want to go back there.

Imho this is rather simple: GNOME should default to suspend-to-ram and only offer suspend-then-hibernate as an option.

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Fedora reawakens the hibernation debate

Posted Sep 21, 2018 2:55 UTC (Fri) by flussence (guest, #85566) [Link]

udev having a quirks database isn't “going back to HAL” — it's keeping us out of the 2.4 dark ages where everyone had to hand-roll their modprobe script, xfree86.conf and asound.conf if they wanted hardware from $overpriced-PC-brand to work sanely.

Take an actual look in /lib/udev/hwdb.d/ (or /usr/share/{libinput,alsa,X11}/) sometime and marvel at how many $1000+ laptops have broken input and output devices that you haven't had to know about in 10 years or more, because someone else has gone through the pain for you (and BSD users!)

And this is just the userspace side of it; the kernel has its *own* quirks lists for really bad hardware like those self-bricking Intel NICs.