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The Commons Clause really isn't as important as we think it is

The Commons Clause really isn't as important as we think it is

Posted Aug 23, 2018 2:55 UTC (Thu) by bkuhn (subscriber, #58642)
Parent article: Redis modules and the Commons Clause

So many people were writing to me and Conservancy to ask for an opinion on this Commons Clause thing, that I wrote a blog post so I wouldn't have to keep responding individually. The one point I didn't make in the blog post is that I think we're all (including me) giving this more attention than it deserves. This is one silly non-Open-Source licensing thing drafted by one lawyer who is promoting multiple “sounds like Open Source but really isn't” licensing schemes. In turn, a very small group of companies think is coolest licensing thing they've ever seen, presumably because it sits better with their VCs than actual FOSS. There's not much more to the story than that.

While Jake's article is well written and covers all the angles, I worry that giving it this much attention (including the attention I'm admittedly giving it by writing a blog post and by posting here) actually is helping these anti-Free-Software folks promote this thing, and that our response subtly legitimizes something that really is just “yet another creative way to do proprietary software”. That's the trap of press coups like this: someone proposes something outrageous, everyone feels compelled to respond because they fear that something this outrageous might get traction, then it looks like it was a legitimate and widely held position from the start (instead of the fringe activity that it is), and then suddenly, the position is granted legitimacy because the response in outrage gave the position legitimacy it wouldn't otherwise have.

The best outcome, which fortunately is still pretty likely for the moment, that everyone will have trouble even remembering what the Commons Clause was in five years, and the codebases that chose it will fall to obscurity, or have since been licensed another way, or both.


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The Commons Clause really isn't as important as we think it is

Posted Aug 23, 2018 22:18 UTC (Thu) by nilsmeyer (guest, #122604) [Link] (4 responses)

I think the issue of the dangerous nature of the Cloud oligopoly is worthy of attention. Especially Amazon is a pitiful example of corporate citizenship, not only are their contributions mostly limited to supporting their NIH infrastructure (like elastic network adapters), they also tend to abuse their employees and try anything not to pay taxes. Endangering free software is just another addition to the list...

Ironically, most of the hosted, managed services perform worse than building something on the basis of virtual machines alone.

The Commons Clause really isn't as important as we think it is

Posted Aug 23, 2018 22:38 UTC (Thu) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link] (3 responses)

As an Amazon employee who worked a fair bit with the ENA source code, what are the non-NIH-ed alternatives to it?

I'm seriously interested.

The Commons Clause really isn't as important as we think it is

Posted Aug 23, 2018 22:40 UTC (Thu) by nilsmeyer (guest, #122604) [Link]

It's just an example of a contribution that only benefits Amazon - sorry for not making this clear. Or is it possible to buy a device compatible with the driver?

AWS NIH

Posted Aug 25, 2018 5:26 UTC (Sat) by wmf (guest, #33791) [Link] (1 responses)

Mellanox and Chelsio NICs have very similar functionality to the ENA, although I can imagine several legitimate reasons why AWS might have chosen to develop their own NIC.

AWS NIH

Posted Aug 25, 2018 7:25 UTC (Sat) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]

> Mellanox and Chelsio NICs have very similar functionality to the ENA, although I can imagine several legitimate reasons why AWS might have chosen to develop their own NIC.
ENAs have a lot of "secret sauce" inside. But to be fair, lots of larger instances just use a regular Intel network card using PCI pass-through.


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