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Fedora's foundations meet proprietary drivers

Fedora's foundations meet proprietary drivers

Posted Sep 28, 2017 16:16 UTC (Thu) by mcatanzaro (subscriber, #93033)
In reply to: Fedora's foundations meet proprietary drivers by lsl
Parent article: Fedora's foundations meet proprietary drivers

It's clear that you have been following Fedora politics fairly closely. But here are some things I think you missed:

* Do remember that the WGs are entirely subservient to FESCo. FESCo created the WGs and can dissolve any WG whenever it wants to. I doubt the current members would choose to do so, but they could if desired. If you really think the WG is "highly toxic to the community", then your endgame for ending us is to convince half plus one of FESCo members to agree with you.

* The decision to not include the standard comps group in the desktop spin kickstart, made after FESCo decided that sendmail should be included in standard, was actually *itself* approved by FESCo upon appeal! So please, don't accuse us of ignoring FESCo. I think this particular issue contributed to the understanding that the exact same set of defaults was just not going to work for both desktops and servers, and that creating separate products with product-specific defaults was the best way forward. The end result was that almost everyone was satisfied: nowadays Workstation ships without sendmail but Server installs it by default.

* I don't remember if the third-party repo policy was approved by FESCo or not. I thought it was approved by the Council instead (since this was a political issue rather than an engineering issue). It's true that most seats on the Council are not elected, but it operates on consensus where all members have a veto. Anyway, turns out it's not actually approved yet: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/121. I didn't know that; and you have a point that implementation should have waited for Council approval. Anyway, you can go campaign against that if you want to. You might actually win, judging by the comments there. But please think hard about the issue first, because this is a really tricky problem: on the one hand, I hate Nvidia's crap and don't want to advertise it either; but on the other hand, I do want to grow the Fedora community. And if we don't have good support for nvidia users, that's a huge subset of users we cannot reach. :/ (The other piece of proprietary software that's desired is Google Chrome, but that one I don't really care about.)


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Fedora's foundations meet proprietary drivers

Posted Sep 28, 2017 17:21 UTC (Thu) by karkhaz (subscriber, #99844) [Link] (2 responses)

> The other piece of proprietary software that's desired is Google Chrome, but that one I don't really care about

I'm curious: why would people possibly care about wanting to install Chrome as opposed to Chromium? Surely the handful of extra features that Chrome provides are not anything that anybody cares about?

Fedora's foundations meet proprietary drivers

Posted Sep 28, 2017 18:18 UTC (Thu) by mcatanzaro (subscriber, #93033) [Link] (1 responses)

Fedora Chromium ships without ffmpeg support, for legal reasons, so there's no way to e.g. play MP4 videos. And it's not extensible, so there's no way to e.g. install extra codec packages from third-party repos.

My understanding is there is work in progress on a legal solution for GStreamer, but Chromium doesn't use GStreamer, so there's not really any hope for it at this time.

Fedora's foundations meet proprietary drivers

Posted Sep 29, 2017 0:00 UTC (Fri) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

>Fedora Chromium ships without ffmpeg support, for legal reasons, so there's no way to e.g. play MP4 videos. And it's not extensible, so there's no way to e.g. install extra codec packages from third-party repos.

Not entirely accurate. It is a hack but there is

https://admin.rpmfusion.org/pkgdb/package/free/chromium-l...


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