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By Jake Edge
July 5, 2017

At the end of June, Zachary Fouts noticed something on his Ubuntu system that surprised him a bit: an entry in the "message of the day" (motd) that looked, at least to some, like an advertisement. That is, of course, not what anyone expects from their free-software system; it turns out that it wasn't an ad at all, though it was worded ambiguously and could be (and was) interpreted that way. As the discussion in the bug Fouts filed shows, the "ad" came about from a useful feature that may or not have been somewhat abused—that determination depends on the observer.

It is a longstanding Unix tradition to print a message of the day when users log in; in ages past, administrators would often note upcoming software upgrades and/or maintenance downtime that way. Typically that message has come from the /etc/motd file, but Ubuntu has long had a way to dynamically generate messages from local system information (e.g. number of package updates or reboot needed) using scripts in the /etc/update-motd.d/ directory. In Ubuntu 17.04, a new script was added that reaches out to a URL and grabs what it finds there to display as the motd.

The default configuration is that this "motd-news" feature is enabled and that it will check https://motd.ubuntu.com for updates. That check is not done at login time, but is periodically done (every twelve hours or so) and the result is cached. At the time of this writing, the message there is reminding users that Ubuntu 16.10 reaches its end of life (EOL) on July 20. But at the time Fouts filed the bug, it had a much different message:

 * How HBO's Silicon Valley built "Not Hotdog" with mobile TensorFlow,
   Keras & React Native on Ubuntu
   - https://ubu.one/HBOubu

In the bug, Fouts said that the news item was targeted poorly: "Instead, https://motd.ubuntu.com should show relevant items to those that use Ubuntu Server (relevant security issues, etc), instead of items for desktop users." Others were quick to wonder whether it was an ad of some sort. Andrew Starr-Bochicchio was disappointed to see it:

I can understand the desire to be able to communicate directly to users and present timely, relevant information, but linking out to content marketing in what seems to be one of its first uses is self-sabotage. This type of behavior will lead to it being disabled and the "important security messages" to not be seen.

He pointed to the /etc/default/motd-news file as a way to disable the feature for those who wanted to do that. Others followed suit; Mikko Tanner said: "Advertising has absolutely no place in motd." No one really defended the content itself, though several commenters considered it to be a mix-up of some kind. Simos Xenitellis asked: "Is it really necessary to conflate this into some conspiracy to display ads in the Ubuntu Server motd?" The post being "advertised" is actually technical in nature and has little to do with the "Silicon Valley" TV show (the app that is built was evidently featured in an episode), but it does namedrop Ubuntu. That is presumably why it was chosen to appear as part of the news stream.

Ubuntu Product Manager Dustin Kirkland, who is the author of the original dynamic motd as well as the new motd-news feature, soon arrived in the bug thread (after commenting in a related Hacker News thread). In a lengthy comment, he explained how motd-news works along with some history and functioning of the dynamic motd feature he developed back in 2009. He described how Ubuntu is using the feed and how it can be configured to consult a local URL to get news items that would be displayed instead of (or in addition to) the official feed. There are several categories of messages that will be added, including internet-wide problems (such as Heartbleed) or important information about Ubuntu itself (like an EOL date reminder). But there is a third category:

And sometimes, it's just a matter of presenting a fun fact. News from the world of Ubuntu. Or even your own IT department. Such was the case with the Silicon Valley / HBO message. It was just an interesting tidbit of potpourri from the world of Ubuntu. Last week's message actually announced an Ubuntu conference in Latin America. The week before, we linked to an article asking for feedback on Kubuntu.

While Kirkland was not apologizing for the news item—he clearly believes it is a reasonable use of the facility—he did say that new messages would be reviewed by the ubuntu-motd team before going live. He invited those reading to submit their own messages to the repository for potential inclusion in the motd-news stream.

Some still objected to fun facts being intermingled with critical information such that users could not get one without also getting the other. Timothy R. Chavez suggested splitting out fun facts into their own stream that could be disabled by default for server installations. Markus Ueberall thought that applying tags to the messages would allow the client side to decide what it displays, which would presumably alleviate the concerns.

But Kirkland does not see a problem with the message: "Moreover, the HBO link wasn't even an advertisement!" He wondered whether those complaining were also opposed to paid Google search results and to the Google Doodles that appear on its home page. Those are imperfect analogies at best, of course. Some disagreed with Kirkland's characterization of the news item, however; Nicola Heald said:

I think the thing that made me feel uneasy is that the motd read like an advertisement. And so did parts of the article, specifically saying that we should watch Silicon Valley. I appreciate that it was not meant that way though.

But maybe people are so sick of seeing clickbait advertorial content when they browse the internet that the message brought up some bad reactions.

Beyond the advertising angle, though, is a question of privacy. The "user agent" string used to contact the motd-news server sends a small amount of potentially sensitive information, including the uptime for the server, according to Chavez. It is believed that the uptime might be used to determine what news item to return (e.g. if the system has been up so long it could not have applied a particular update), but it is not clear whether that information is tracked by Canonical. It is a fairly minor privacy breach, potentially, but one that concerns a few, including Fouts, the original reporter, who had some further thoughts:

Fun facts are indeed fun, but this feature should be reserved for important information regarding EOL, Security Patches, etc. If the administrator of ${system} wants a fun fact, they can install something else. Cow Say, Fortune, whatever to display that.

Not trying to stir anything up, it's a great feature but that feature should be used wisely so people do not disable it.

So far, there is no indication of any plans to change things. Kirkland changed the importance of the bug to "Wishlist" and its status to "Opinion" on June 29. He seemed to indicate that more care would be taken in choosing fun facts in the future (perhaps reviewing the wording to reduce the perception that it is an ad), but the feature itself will not be changing.

While there is some element of a "sad Twitter storm in a tea cup" regarding the bug, as Xenitellis put it, there are some reasonable concerns that it has surfaced. Clearly the news item in question was aimed at doing a bit of marketing regarding Ubuntu—people have varying reactions to that kind of message, especially in unexpected locations. And, while it is hard to imagine that Canonical has some nefarious plan that uses system uptimes, sending that kind of information anywhere seems like it should be opt-in. Overall, that seems to be the failing here: getting permission before making these kinds of changes. There are a number of ways that could be fixed, of course, but it would seem that Ubuntu/Canonical are not particularly interested in doing so, at least yet.


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A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 5, 2017 16:46 UTC (Wed) by mirabilos (subscriber, #84359) [Link]

“The default configuration is that this "motd-news" feature is enabled and that it will check https://motd.ubuntu.com for updates.” is called “a useful feature” by the author of this LWN article, and in the bugreport.

In the Debian world, we call this a phone-home privacy violation which is a security-relevant release-critical bug and an absolute MUST NOT.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 5, 2017 17:08 UTC (Wed) by Kamiccolo (subscriber, #95159) [Link]

Well... it's been quite a while they were promoting Canonical services using motd.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 5, 2017 17:57 UTC (Wed) by jdulaney (subscriber, #83672) [Link]

Time to switch to Fedora.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 5, 2017 19:48 UTC (Wed) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

Firefox is the default browser for Fedora and when you open it up the default homepage connects you 'https://start.fedoraproject.org', which provides a simple news feed for 'Fedora Magazine'.

I don't see how that is any better then what Ubuntu is doing with the 'motd'. In fact it's probably a bit worse since the Firefox supports javascript and there are all sorts of nasty tricks you can do to track users.

Personally I don't see any problem with all of this and don't really see the Ubuntu 'motd' as anything resembling a 'big deal'. I have to connect to Fedora's servers anyways for updates and other things. If they wanted to know I existed they could figure it out from that. I trust them to create the operating system, being a paranoid about a news feed being used for maliciousness seems a bit odd at that point.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 6, 2017 1:17 UTC (Thu) by zuki (guest, #41808) [Link]

Yeah, I had the same reaction. It seems to a much ado about nothing. When my Fedora Magazine feed has an article Controlling Windows with Ansible I don't jump to any conclusions.

And making this opt in is also not without costs — either you need to know about the feature and expressly request it, so in effect most people won't have it, or you ask, so the installer needs to ask everybody one more stupid question ("do you want to tell the ubuntu servers that you installed ubuntu, even though they already know it because you periodically check for updates?"). I think making this opt-out and including a bit of "off topic" messages is completely appropriate.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 6, 2017 5:19 UTC (Thu) by fujimotos (guest, #111905) [Link]

Also Mozilla is doing the same thing on their default homepage (about:home).
This page has a little area to show messages and these texts are loaded dynamically via AJAX.

Their messages are equally cryptic. Here is an example:

> Cat videos are a universal form of communication. Learn more about what the Web can
> give us with Mozilla Webmaker and our global Maker Party.

I just don't understand why Ubuntu/Fedora/Mozilla are trying to send something like this
to their users.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 6, 2017 10:23 UTC (Thu) by jwilk (subscriber, #63328) [Link]

Firefox is a total privacy disaster:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-stop-firefox-mak...

And this list isn't even complete. It doesn't mention captive portal detection, and who knows what else.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 6, 2017 21:26 UTC (Thu) by debacle (subscriber, #7114) [Link]

The list is impressive. I'm a little bit disappointed, that the Debian firefox package does not have all the settings correctly preconfigured.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 7, 2017 3:32 UTC (Fri) by flussence (subscriber, #85566) [Link]

I've found that Firefox starts up slightly faster and significantly less CPU-hungrily if I take away its network access while it's loading.

The worst culprit at startup is the new tab page where mousing over the page thumbnails generates a traffic storm directly to those sites, which makes it pretty easy for someone snooping your unencrypted DNS traffic to know a) that you have the NTP screen open and b) your most visited sites. I bet someone could probably come up with some insane side-channel analysis to figure out where on the screen each is (i.e. relative ordering by view count) by the timing of the requests.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 6, 2017 10:07 UTC (Thu) by mirabilos (subscriber, #84359) [Link]

Yes, this is quite a problem as well; a similar bug was reported to Debian, and I tend to just force browsers to load about:blank or similar when started (local, static content with no automatic network connection, in any case, which is why the various default (upstream) Firefox start pages are a no-go either).

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 8, 2017 18:48 UTC (Sat) by ssmith32 (guest, #72404) [Link]

And if you don't mind the network traffic "start where I left off" (i.e. open the tabs I had open on close), is a perfectly sane default - and with https-everywhere enabled, it won't be sending out unencrypted info, if that's your worry.

I don't know why this isn't the default - just from a pure usefulness standpoint, it drives me a bit batty to lose all my tabs on restart...

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 9, 2017 0:33 UTC (Sun) by flussence (subscriber, #85566) [Link]

HTTPS Everywhere has a serious flaw in that particular use case - it's too slow and bloated, which combined with the asynchronous extension loading on Chromium (and I'd expect it to start doing the same on Firefox soon) causes some nasty races. More than once I've seen the browser open and fully load HTTP pages before the extension “warms up”.

The right way to solve it would be to inject HSTS headers for whitelisted sites, but I'm not sure if an extension can even do that…

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 11, 2017 16:47 UTC (Tue) by kzar (subscriber, #89626) [Link]

> The right way to solve it would be to inject HSTS headers for whitelisted sites, but I'm not sure if an extension can even do that…

Yes, while I've not tried it with that particular header Chrome extension can inject headers into responses. For an example have a look at this https://github.com/adblockplus/adblockpluschrome/blob/45f...

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 6, 2017 9:06 UTC (Thu) by lamby (subscriber, #42621) [Link]

May I suggest a small, artisanal distribution called Debian?

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 6, 2017 23:56 UTC (Thu) by NightMonkey (subscriber, #23051) [Link]

Free-range, even.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 5, 2017 23:42 UTC (Wed) by jbicha (subscriber, #75043) [Link]

> a security-relevant release-critical bug

It's not a "security" bug. It might not be release-critical. Sometimes this kind of thing is not even a bug.

I'll give an example of a not-a-bug: A computer offers to update the firmware in a connected device. If the user agrees to update the firmware, the server providing the firmware knows that a user at that IP address has a device that uses that firmware.

I don't see why a user should be upset at that behavior but at the same time browse the Internet. For instance, the operators of LWN.net know (or can reasonably be assumed to know) what web browser (and what version) I am using to access this article and (probably) my home IP address. But this isn't unique to LWN; I share all that information (and a bit more) with every website I visit because of how the Internet works.

Does that mean that we should remove all web browsers from Debian as a "security update"? That would fix some security and privacy concerns, but Debian wouldn't be a very useful system to most people then.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 6, 2017 10:06 UTC (Thu) by mirabilos (subscriber, #84359) [Link]

> I'll give an example of a not-a-bug

Your example is no different from a shell script with a wget command in it that the user runs.

The motd thing, on the other hand, is automatic *and* enabled by default, which moves it *quite* into the problematic domains.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 6, 2017 22:57 UTC (Thu) by jbicha (subscriber, #75043) [Link]

To offer the firmware update, the helper script runs automatically in the background on a regular basis.

To speed up installing the firmware, maybe the script downloads the firmware before asking you whether to install it.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 7, 2017 16:24 UTC (Fri) by joey (subscriber, #328) [Link]

Some years ago I was surprised when my Dad knew about some blog post from planet.debian.org. It turns out that Debian's xscreensaver is modified to download its RSS feed and displays it from time to time amoung the other screensavers.

So, you might want to fix that phone-home privacy violation in Debian, I suppose..

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 7, 2017 20:26 UTC (Fri) by mirabilos (subscriber, #84359) [Link]

Interesting. Feel free to report the bug (I do not use xscreensaver so I cannot comment) as serious issue.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 13, 2017 19:00 UTC (Thu) by satbyy (subscriber, #107278) [Link]

Yes, but IIRC such screensavers are moved to xscreensaver-data-extra and xscreensaver-gl-extra packages, which are not installed by default. So it's users prerogative to install such phone-home packages.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 21, 2017 23:35 UTC (Fri) by yoe (subscriber, #25743) [Link]

maybe in your part of Debian it is an absolute MUST NOT, but in my part of Debian it is not. Last I checked, Debian policy did not forbid phone-home privacy violations of any kind.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 22, 2017 7:47 UTC (Sat) by Jonno (subscriber, #49613) [Link]

> maybe in your part of Debian it is an absolute MUST NOT, but in my part of Debian it is not. Last I checked, Debian policy did not forbid phone-home privacy violations of any kind.

The Debian Social Contract paragraph 4 implies that Debian promises to respect the privacy of its users.

While the Debian Policy Manual does not explicitly mention phone-home violations, the Debian Policy Manual is not the definition of Debian policy, but an incomplete attempt to document the most important parts of it.

Lintian defines detectable privacy breach issues as having a "serious" severity (the highest possible severity). The only reason it doesn't automatically reject packages with privacy breach issues is because the risk of false positives in its detection method.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 22, 2017 20:24 UTC (Sat) by yoe (subscriber, #25743) [Link]

> The Debian Social Contract paragraph 4 implies that Debian promises to respect the privacy of its users.

Only if you read words that aren't there.

> While the Debian Policy Manual does not explicitly mention phone-home violations, the Debian Policy Manual is not the definition of Debian policy, but an incomplete attempt to document the most important parts of it.

Close, but no. Policy defines the rules on which there is consensus and no controversy, and which can be clearly put into language. It is indeed not complete, but that has less to do with importance than with practicality.

> Lintian defines detectable privacy breach issues as having a "serious" severity (the highest possible severity). The only reason it doesn't automatically reject packages with privacy breach issues is because the risk of false positives in its detection method.

It defines detectable and avoidable privacy issues as such, because it's generally a good idea to avoid it if you can. However, there is no part of Debian that defines phoning home as a MUST NOT, because it's not what Debian focuses on, and it's not a practical goal that we can reach without intensive patching of upstream software, which is generally frowned upon -- and that *is* defined in policy.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 23, 2017 12:13 UTC (Sun) by jwilk (subscriber, #63328) [Link]

There is policy against some kinds of phoning home. From §4.9 (Main building script: debian/rules):

For packages in the main archive, no required targets may attempt network access.

It's a bit embarrassing that it had to be written down. Apparently the implicit “you must not do stupid shit” policy was not enough.

Indeed, Debian developers can't be trusted to care about your privacy. If you google for "phones home" site:bugs.debian.org, most of the found bugs aren't RC.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 23, 2017 16:53 UTC (Sun) by yoe (subscriber, #25743) [Link]

The bit you quote is about *building* a package from source, not about *using* the built package, and is there more because lack of that flies in the face of things like reproducibility and the guarantee of free software; it has nothing to do with privacy and phoning home.

> Indeed, Debian developers can't be trusted to care about your privacy. If you google for "phones home" site:bugs.debian.org, most of the found bugs aren't RC.

I repeat: this is not because we don't care about privacy, but instead because privacy is not our focus. Privacy is a laudable goal, but not one a general-purpose distribution like Debian can pursue without becoming a distribution that *only* the privacy-conscious will want to use. For that reason, while phone home issues may be considered bugs in some cases for Debian, they are not usually considered release-critical.

If you think privacy is so important that it outweighs all other considerations, then Debian just isn't for you. There are other distributions that do focus on that, and they are more suitable for such a purpose.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 23, 2017 19:18 UTC (Sun) by gracinet (subscriber, #89400) [Link]

> If you think privacy is so important that it outweighs all other considerations, then Debian just isn't for you. There are other distributions that do focus on that, and they are more suitable for such a purpose.

Including Debian derivatives or blends, if I'm not mistaken, right ?

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 23, 2017 23:49 UTC (Sun) by pabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link]

There aren't any privacy focussed Debian blends yet, but there are derivatives, including Tails and Whonix as well as Debian-based Qubes VMs.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 24, 2017 7:40 UTC (Mon) by pabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link]

Subgraph OS and Kodachi are a couple more.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 23, 2017 19:30 UTC (Sun) by liw (subscriber, #6379) [Link]

It may not be in the Debian Policy document, but "phone home" type behaviour is usually considered to be a bug, in my experience. As an example see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=792580 (chromium).

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 5, 2017 17:43 UTC (Wed) by sasha (subscriber, #16070) [Link]

I do not live in US, and my native language is not English. I do not have any issues with understanding all the article above, with one small exception: the motd message under discussion looks completely cryptic for me. If such a message shows up in a place where I use to see important messages about EOL or security updates, then I have to spend some time to decipher it.

Ubuntu means something like "humanity towards others", right? Or is it "we do not care about non-US users"? Luckily, I use Debian.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 5, 2017 17:51 UTC (Wed) by sfeam (subscriber, #2841) [Link]

I do live in the US and I am a native speaker of English. The quoted motd was completely cryptic to me also. I would be both annoyed and worried if I logged in to my server and saw such a thing.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 6, 2017 1:20 UTC (Thu) by jkingweb (subscriber, #113039) [Link]

Phew. I thought it was just me. I'm also not American, and English is likewise not my first language, but my command of English is pretty decent.

I was having a lot of diffulty reading advertisement (or, indeed, anything) from the text, and I wondered if I was just dumb.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 5, 2017 19:27 UTC (Wed) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

> the motd message under discussion looks completely cryptic for me.

It's cryptic for everybody.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 6, 2017 1:19 UTC (Thu) by zuki (guest, #41808) [Link]

"How A built B using C" is a fairly standard pattern. Even if I have no idea what A, B, and C are, I can guess that it's some off-topic bit of trivia.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 7, 2017 11:50 UTC (Fri) by niner (subscriber, #26151) [Link]

But Silicon Valley is a place, not a person or an organisation. So how can a place build anything?

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 7, 2017 12:26 UTC (Fri) by laarmen (subscriber, #63948) [Link]

I think here they refer to a TV Series titled Silicon Valley.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 13, 2017 14:32 UTC (Thu) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link]

Which causes major comprehension problems. I speak English natively (that's English, not American), so the reference to "Silicon Valley" would completely flummox me as I would understand it as a place. I've never heard of the TV series.

That's one of the reasons foreign call centres are so unpopular - not only do foreign accents (even if the English is impeccable) make them hard to understand, but the cultural understanding is missing. I have no trouble understanding a strong Scottish accent despite it being very different from mine, but some of the worst experiences I've had have been when I've had no trouble at all understanding the words, but the meaning escaped me completely. (Or the guy at the other end had the same problem in reverse ...)

Cheers,
Wol

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 9, 2017 23:41 UTC (Sun) by jschrod (subscriber, #1646) [Link]

The prefix "HBO's" may point out to a halfway attentative reader that it has something to do with TV.

Well, maybe not, if one doesn't know what "HBO" is -- but than one has different communication problems because then this is a different planet than most other IT affine persons live on.

(FTR: I do not live in the USA and have no idea what kind of HBO production this is.)

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 13, 2017 14:36 UTC (Thu) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link]

FYI I have no idea what an HBO is ...

And acronyms - especially TLAs, often have multiple meanings. The number of times I've seen a familiar TLA in an unfamiliar setting and wondered what on earth it meant ...

To me, I'd guess an HBO was a H... Buy Out, some financial term ...

Cheers,
Wol

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 13, 2017 14:59 UTC (Thu) by jschrod (subscriber, #1646) [Link]

> FYI I have no idea what an HBO is ...

HBO is the company that produces Game of Thrones, True Blood, The Sopranos, Sex and the City, Six Feet Under, The Wire and a gag of other widely acclaimed TV series.

I assume you have heard of them, even if you don't look TV. (I look TV very seldom, and still have heard of them -- in fact, for some of the series named above I have no idea about their content -- nevertheless, it's quite hard to miss any reporting about this pop-cultural phenomen.)

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 13, 2017 15:49 UTC (Thu) by farnz (subscriber, #17727) [Link]

Round my neck of the woods, where US TV content is often bought in by local firms, those are usually known as Sky shows, not HBO shows. If you don't watch any of them, and therefore haven't seen the HBO branding in the credits, you could well not realise that they're not Sky productions.

I'm only aware of HBO because I used to work in the broadcasting industry; had HBO never been a potential customer of my employer, I'd probably not be aware of their existence.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 20, 2017 0:03 UTC (Thu) by k8to (subscriber, #15413) [Link]

HBO was far far more relevant in the early days of cable TV, when it was "How you watched movies that were not 8+ years old at home". Lately, it's pretty ignorable.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 20, 2017 8:45 UTC (Thu) by farnz (subscriber, #17727) [Link]

Even back then, HBO was a non-entity over here - the equivalent was Sky Movies. To recognise HBO, you need to be attuned to American TV culture; either because you're a serious fan of shows that HBO produces (and thus are aware of fansites telling you that this is a HBO production), or because US cable TV was significant to you for other reasons (lived in the US, worked in the industry etc).

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 5, 2017 21:05 UTC (Wed) by k8to (subscriber, #15413) [Link]

The message, by itself, makes almost no sense.

That Ubuntu decision makers choose to not care that they are transmitting weird nonsense to server administrators in a privacy leaking communication stream is really unfortunate.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 8, 2017 20:40 UTC (Sat) by lkundrak (subscriber, #43452) [Link]

>the motd message under discussion looks completely cryptic for me
- * How HBO's Silicon Valley built "Not Hotdog" with mobile TensorFlow,
+ * How HBO's Silicon Valley built "Not Hotdog" with mobile TensorFlow, fnord.

A little surprise in the Ubuntu motd

Posted Jul 6, 2017 12:48 UTC (Thu) by epa (subscriber, #39769) [Link]

I remember Fedora's storm in a teacup over "Beefy Miracle" a few years back. Could the moral be that hot dogs and Linux distributions do not mix?


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