Alioth moving toward pagure [LWN.net]

Alioth moving toward pagure

Posted Jun 15, 2017 7:35 UTC (Thu) by nim-nim (subscriber, #34454)
Parent article: Alioth moving toward pagure

I wonder if someone considered TuleAp.

It's free software (GPL) and quite modern. More advanced than GitLab on some aspects.

https://www.tuleap.org/
https://www.tuleap.org/tuleap-versus-gitlab-battle-will-n...

They seem to have some happy big enterprise users (AirBus, Orange…)

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Alioth moving toward pagure

Posted Jun 15, 2017 13:27 UTC (Thu) by dgm (subscriber, #49227) [Link] (1 responses)

Also, what about Apache Allura? It seems to be the natural path for *Forges.

What's wrong with it?

Alioth moving toward pagure

Posted Jun 18, 2017 9:33 UTC (Sun) by ras (subscriber, #33059) [Link]

As a user of SourceForge I insisted absolutely nothing wrong with it. It has three notable features:

1. It's landing pages are designed for the user of the package, as opposed to the developer. So links to a versioned(!) download area, documentation, bugs and mailing lists are prominent. The button to fork the project is harder to find.

2. It is VCS agnostic - it supports all the common ones.

3. It can be completely scripted, by which I mean after doing the development of the next version on my laptop or whatever, a "make upload" is all that is required to update the release area, home page, and VCS on sourceforge. In fact if it weren't for responding to bug reports there would be no need for me to visit SourceForge at all after creating the project.

This apparently isn't to most people tastes. It appears that developers prefer their hosting sites to function primarily communicating channel for developers. But for me it's bliss.

This state of affairs lasted until I became so enamored with it, I decided I'd try and package it for Debian. The installation instructions of "here is a VM we've created for you" weren't encouraging, and it turned out they were like that for a reason. The Allura devs mode of operation seems to be to pull in other projects as needed, hack them into something they can use, then not contribute any of their changes upstream.

In other words, unsupportable by anyone else.

That said, it's currently a good fit for the current Aloith. It also runs on software that has never been packages for Debian, and judging by the years of unfixed bug reports and requests for help [0], is unusable by anybody who doesn't have admin rights to the machine so they can fix it when it breaks.

Maybe pagure will mark the start of a new era. Here's hoping.

[0] https://alioth.debian.org/tracker/?atid=200001&group_...

Alioth moving toward pagure

Posted Jun 16, 2017 13:46 UTC (Fri) by bavay (subscriber, #60804) [Link] (1 responses)

Actually, as a current Indefero admin, I am looking at moving to another system at some point... Does anybody has some feedback on Tuleap? It seems very nice, but I obviously do not want to migrate to another forge that would end up unmaintained...

Alioth moving toward pagure

Posted Jun 18, 2017 13:19 UTC (Sun) by nim-nim (subscriber, #34454) [Link]

Given this I doubt it will disappear soon
https://www.eclipsecon.org/france2017/session/new-era-alm...

Airbus has deep pockets.

The whole business model of the company developing it is to allow corps to sponsor features they need, while staying 100% free software (big corps are starting to understand what open core means and they do not like it at all).

Alioth moving toward pagure

Posted Jun 19, 2017 14:58 UTC (Mon) by mirabilos (subscriber, #84359) [Link] (1 responses)

Tuleap is just another GForge derivative.

Disclaimer: I was a developer of FusionForge for a while.

Alioth moving toward pagure

Posted Jun 21, 2017 10:03 UTC (Wed) by nim-nim (subscriber, #34454) [Link]

Si what? As long as they keep adding features modern software project expect. Is gforge such a bad core it's better to dump it for a new barebones one such as pagure ?