Do-not-distribute terms
Do-not-distribute terms
Posted Apr 29, 2017 8:35 UTC (Sat) by PaXTeam (guest, #24616)In reply to: Do-not-distribute terms by dsommers
Parent article: No more grsecurity test patches
then why did you say that the Red Hat kernel patch situation discussed in the LWN link i gave you has not changed since? do you know what that situation is at all?
> But if you put the efforts of splitting up that patch by finding the relevant commits in Linus' kernel git tree [...]
that is not at all the Red Hat situation so i'm not sure what you've been discussing all along. what did happen was simple: Red Hat used to put a kernel patch series into their kernel SRPM instead of one big monolithic patch or a fully pre-patched tree. both satisfy the GPL but they aren't equivalent in other ways. then one day Red Hat decided to replace the patch series in their kernel SRPM with a monolithic patch (or a pre-patched tree, doesn't matter) *and* stop distributing their kernel patch series to the geneal public. instead, they made that series available to their paying customers only *and* changed their service terms to 'restrict' (your term, not mine) the distribution of that source code (again, your terms): they stipulated that it'd be a breach of those terms (and thus result in service termination) if the customer did distribute that patch series to non-subscribers ('source code'). you said that this 1. was fine for 'the Red Hat case', 2. is not a restriction on that source code, 3. is a restriction on our source code if we did this, 4. thus it's not ok for us to do this. that is a contradiction there that you have yet to resolve.
> I honestly don't know if you put restrictions or not.
vs.
> They seem to provide a restriction on what you can do with the source code if you want to make use of their service.
so do you know something or do you not know something?
> But you seem to try to twist that into that Red Hat is obliged to provide the granular development process of that source code[...]
i did not say that at all, quite the contrary in fact. what you did say was however that it was fine for Red Hat to terminate their support contract if a customer redistributed their broken out kernel patches ('source code' in your terms) but it is not fine for us to do the same. you haven't addressed this contradiction so far.
