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Since there is no X server in the stack, the various tools can't talk to it. So to get the tools to work they would have to talk to the compositor instead. But they only know how to speak X protocol, and no Wayland protocol extension exists for input device configuration. Such a Wayland protocol extension would most likely have to be a private one since the various compositors expose device configuration in different ways. Whether this extension will be written and added to compositors is uncertain, I'm not aware of any plans or even intentions to do so (it's a very messy problem). But either way, until it exists, the tools will merely shout into the void, without even an echo to keep them entertained.
Peter Hutterer

Here’s to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels. The package makers, the man page writers. The rounded windows in Qt mixed with the less rounded windows of GTK. The ones who literally see things differently because of missing proprietary fonts.

You can downvote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you cannot do is ignore them. Because they ship your bug fixes.

While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because people who are crazy enough to think that they can run Linux on the desktop, are the ones who change the world.

Lev Lazinskiy



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Posted Dec 9, 2016 22:39 UTC (Fri) by ksandstr (guest, #60862) [Link] (2 responses)

So much for the whiz-bang graphics server without the historical baggage of X11 or the bloat of x.org: having yet to support X11's interfaces, and fail on a half-arsed shim's merits or succeed as a younger, inferior implementation of X11 built on a foreign framework. But of course the Wayland bit is only in there because it was written that way once upon a time, so the inner framework layer it represents doesn't count.

For all the value in a failed experiment that Wayland represents, I sure wish it hadn't brain-drained x.org the way it did.

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Posted Jan 5, 2017 10:01 UTC (Thu) by daenzer (subscriber, #7050) [Link] (1 responses)

That's some interesting timing, calling Wayland "a failed experiment" just when it was made the default by the first major distro (Fedora 25).

Speaking as an X.org (and previously XFree86) developer of almost 20 years, it's been clear for a long time that X11 needs to be replaced for various reasons, and Wayland is the most credible candidate in sight.

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Posted Jan 5, 2017 11:28 UTC (Thu) by pabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link]

Are there many Xorg developers who dissent against Wayland? I've heard it called insane/crazy/broken/mess by one.

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Posted Dec 11, 2016 1:19 UTC (Sun) by gerdesj (subscriber, #5446) [Link] (2 responses)

The Lev Lazinskiy abbreviated quote is good but the full blog post is a near work of genius. I have probably seen a better written - with tongue in cheek - call to arms, but I can't recall it.

He's only whining about a video driver. Imagine what the man could accomplish if he had a real problem.

I knew it was riffing on someone's ads but couldn't recall who. ... a quick browse of the comments ... oh Apple - something that happens to other people.

Cheers
Jon

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Posted Dec 13, 2016 15:14 UTC (Tue) by federico3 (guest, #101963) [Link] (1 responses)

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Posted Dec 13, 2016 19:30 UTC (Tue) by madscientist (subscriber, #16861) [Link]

If you click the name of the person the quote is attributed to, it will take you to the origin of the quote.


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