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Posted Nov 8, 2016 16:09 UTC (Tue) by anarcat (subscriber, #66354)
In reply to: Some more details by mogendavido
Parent article: The Turris Omnia router: help for the IoT mess?

Toronto and New York are in the same time zone, yet they are both present. I could cite a bunch of examples.

It was a bit of a tongue-in-cheek joke: Montreal *used* to be present in the tzdata files, as a distinct entity. It got turned into an alias, which caused a huge controversy... But I do think that configuring timezones based on geography assumes a certain level of knowledge that may not be uniformly available. We assume too much, and more citites would be better, not worse... Living outside of the city these days just shows me how so many things are geared towards big cities, at the detriment of rural communities or smaller areas. It's something we often forget about...


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Posted Nov 8, 2016 16:53 UTC (Tue) by Jonno (guest, #49613) [Link]

> Toronto and New York are in the same time zone, yet they are both present.

Actually they are *not* the same timezone, because historically the local clocks in Toronto and New York did not always agree on the time, due to different daylight saving rules in 1974-1975.

> I could cite a bunch of examples.

The only case I could find where the different timezone rules were indeed identical (and not just managed to have the same effect during recent years) were a bug in tzdata prior to version 2013h, where Montreal and Toronto were listed separately despite not differing in any way...

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Posted Nov 9, 2016 8:33 UTC (Wed) by pabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link] (2 responses)

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Posted Nov 9, 2016 14:36 UTC (Wed) by anarcat (subscriber, #66354) [Link]

i stand corrected: not sure why it doesn't show up in the list on the Turris...

is it just me that remembers a controversy about this?

at least here, it's a symlink to Toronto in Debian. :)

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Posted Nov 14, 2016 8:00 UTC (Mon) by anselm (subscriber, #2796) [Link]

They're probably planning ahead in case Quebec ever becomes independent.


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