Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane? [LWN.net]

Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane?

Posted Jul 28, 2016 23:02 UTC (Thu) by luto (subscriber, #39314)
Parent article: Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane?

I have no idea whether it would help, but if lwn had a checkbox "donate $2/month to Gmane", I would check it.

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Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane?

Posted Jul 28, 2016 23:10 UTC (Thu) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link] (9 responses)

I've been talking a bit with Lars; money doesn't seem to be the issue. He's really just ready to hand it off. I think we might have found a good prospective home for gmane, but it will take a little while to know for sure.

Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane?

Posted Jul 28, 2016 23:45 UTC (Thu) by jcm (subscriber, #18262) [Link]

Let us know if there's anything specific that can be done to help - happy to raise it on the RH end

Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane?

Posted Jul 29, 2016 9:23 UTC (Fri) by dborkman (guest, #102857) [Link]

Any chance LWN could continue this at least for the vger.kernel.org mailing lists? Would be awesome ... the threaded view was unbeatable.

Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane?

Posted Jul 29, 2016 9:44 UTC (Fri) by mtaht (guest, #11087) [Link] (4 responses)

I hope this service survives, and that some more resources get put into making nntp modernized.

recently I tried setting up cnews for myself - because I'd like to have my own copy of everything in light of a dark day where something like this happens, or archive.org gets taken down - and failed.

Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane?

Posted Jul 29, 2016 9:52 UTC (Fri) by mtaht (guest, #11087) [Link] (2 responses)

And I have a great deal of empathy towards lars's burnout and desire to move on. Volunteerism fails in the face of billions of users, and constant adversity. As we get older, our ability to manage disturbances changes, the dull becomes tedious, and the idea of just sitting on a park bench, like bookends, beckons.

Years ago, I wrote about another guy that had burned out, badly, to whom we owe quite a bit:

http://the-edge.blogspot.de/2003/06/wireless-connection.html

and has since vanished from the Internet. I try to remember that story, and retain my essential optimism, but that often gets hard.

I hope more ways emerge to reward, sustain, and recognize people for selfless contributions to software of all sorts, and the internet long before they burn out on it.

To lars, a hug, and a thanks for keeping gmane going for so long. You have long been a hero of mine.

Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane?

Posted Jul 29, 2016 10:20 UTC (Fri) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Of course, this is more or less an unpaid USENET administrator's job he's doing -- a central point that all the lawyers think is responsible for all the stuff posted on what is really an archive site -- and we *know* that's a job that burns through people like a forest fire through dry dead wood.

Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane?

Posted Jul 29, 2016 13:28 UTC (Fri) by Paf (subscriber, #91811) [Link]

Thanks for that link you gave. That's a really striking story.

Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane?

Posted Mar 6, 2018 6:43 UTC (Tue) by ceplm (subscriber, #41334) [Link]

CNEWS are from days when men were real men, women were real women and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri (to quote Douglas Adams). In the current days when we are all soft and useless, go for leafnode (https://gitlab.com/leafnode-2/leafnode-2/blob/master/READ...). It is a way easier to use and works fine for small personal sites.

And (a bit of self-propaganda), if you need mail2news bidirectional gateway, I have fixed pyg (originally from an abandoned Debian package) https://gitlab.com/mcepl/pyg

Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane?

Posted Jul 29, 2016 9:51 UTC (Fri) by epa (subscriber, #39769) [Link]

In the early days of Gmane there was talk of peering or federating or whatever it is that you do with NNTP. The main site could keep going as a mail-to-news gateway only and then replicate to other sites which may provide web interfaces.

Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane?

Posted Aug 8, 2016 6:40 UTC (Mon) by voltagex (guest, #86296) [Link]

Did Jason Scott ever get involved?