Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane? [LWN.net]

Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane?

Posted Jul 28, 2016 18:36 UTC (Thu) by lacos (guest, #70616)
In reply to: Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane? by rsidd
Parent article: Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane?

> But I always found it annoying when LWN linked to it when the primary archive used some more friendly web interface, such as mailman.

Calling mailman a "more friendly" web UI than the threaded view of Gmane bears witness to such a distorted world view that I can't even begin to address it.

Mailman 2 is workable, but severely limited; Gmane beats it hands down.

Mailman 3 / HyperKitty is both a step backwards relative to Mailman 2, and a new absolute bottom in usability (evidenced by the new Fedora mailing list archives, which are atrocious). It doesn't even make sense to compare Mailman 3 to Gmane.

Gmane is the best mailing list archive on the web. Its ability to locate archived message by message-id (regardless of how many lists the message has been cross-posted to!), its threaded view (which integrates discussions across partially cross-posted mailing lists), its permanent links into the threaded view with a specific message focused, and its machine-friendly raw download URLs will be *hugely* missed.

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Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane?

Posted Jul 28, 2016 19:22 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] (2 responses)

I concur. However, donating money to Lars is unlikely to help here: his problem is stress and lack of time, and neither are easily donatable.

Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane?

Posted Jul 28, 2016 22:35 UTC (Thu) by karkhaz (subscriber, #99844) [Link] (1 responses)

I wonder if donating server time/infrastructure might help, though?

gmane.org is down, but IIRC one of the questions on the FAQ was "what hardware does gmane run on" and the answer was a photograph of a dinky server closet using a few ageing Opterons that was running in Lars' day job office.

Maybe some dedicated hosting might be appreciated? gmane was a fantastic asset to the community, it deserves resilient hosting, and Lars deserves a hand with running it...

Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane?

Posted Jul 29, 2016 8:57 UTC (Fri) by peake (guest, #109863) [Link]

Gmane looks like it could benefit greatly from Google's Project Shield[1][2]. It doesn't fit their criteria for a qualifying site exactly, but perhaps Google could be persuaded to make an exception for such a valuable service.

[1] https://projectshield.withgoogle.com/public/
[2] https://jigsaw.google.com/products/project-shield/