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Open Source in Politics

Posted Jan 15, 2004 3:11 UTC (Thu) by stonedown (subscriber, #2987)
In reply to: Open Source in Politics by frazier
Parent article: Open Source in Politics

If you want to bark at Dean, go for it. But, Dean is actually our best chance for reform in this area. His Net Advisory Net is a good indication of that.

Politicians do break their campaign promises, but Dean is a very special candidate. His main source of monetary support turns out not to be from unions or corporations, but from small donors like you and me. Ok, not like you. But, like me. If he is elected and sells us out, it will be at his own political peril.

I take the "you partisan people" label with some pride. I'm participating in the political process. What are you doing to try to make things better?

Just so you know a little more about me, I'm a slightly left of center independent, who reregistered as a Democrat for the sole purpose of voting for Dean. Like most Dean supporters, I've never participated in politics before.

The "Help the Democratic Party raise the money" link isn't mine. I don't donate to the Democratic Party, only to the Dean campaign and Moveon. The link you saw is displayed by the parent site which my diary resides on.

Finally, since I've mentioned Moveon, I feel the need to head off a possibly scathing attack on the so-called Moveon "advertisements" comparing Bush to Hitler. Moveon held a contest. There were over 100 entries, and two of them made allusions to Hitler or the Nazi party. These were nothing more than contest submissions, and they were voted down by the membership. Moveon has promised to screen this kind of stuff more carefully in the future.

OK, that's far more politics than should be posted here, but I wanted to respond to your comments.


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Open Source in Politics

Posted Jan 15, 2004 4:49 UTC (Thu) by frazier (guest, #3060) [Link]

I take the "you partisan people" label with some pride. I'm participating in the political process. What are you doing to try to make things better?
A couple days ago I tried to discourage supporting the two party system that's gotten us where we are today.

As to Dean, I don't know. I do know that sending money to "our best chance for reform in this area" doesn't cut it with me. How much of that is positioning vs. result? Hard to tell from here.

Now Rick Boucher, there's a guy who's got it figured out.

Maybe Dean will get it done, but betting on the politician who looks most promising isn't sufficient for me. I've been underemployed for the last year plus, but back in my money to spare days I dropped it on toys for needy children around the holidays and tried to pay for Disc Golf equipment for a local park (this was rejected through parks and rec, though).

I have no problem supporting things I believe in. I do have problems with supporting a maybe.

Political parties form a great mechanism to get people to directly or indirectly support things they don't believe in. I'll pass on that.

Open Source in Politics

Posted Jan 15, 2004 6:26 UTC (Thu) by stonedown (subscriber, #2987) [Link]

"A couple days ago I tried to discourage supporting the two party system that's gotten us where we are today."

Not much chance of a third party effectively challenging the status quo, unfortunately. The laws have been crafted to prevent such an occurrence.

Open Source in Politics

Posted Jan 15, 2004 22:50 UTC (Thu) by Ross (guest, #4065) [Link]

I'm surprised at MoveOn's reaction to those attacks. Why do they distance
themselves so much from those submissions but not from others? I have to
admit I haven't viewed them myself so maybe they really are as unfair as
everyone says but I don't think it's completely unreasonable to make
comparisons with Hitler. That is not to say the current administration is
killing millions of people or that they are evil, but there ARE comparisons
which can be made about suspending civil rights in the name of protecting
the father^Whome land.

Open Source in Politics

Posted Jan 16, 2004 23:00 UTC (Fri) by stonedown (subscriber, #2987) [Link]

The Moveon "Bush in 30 Seconds" ad submissions were as varied as the people who sent them in. There's no way to judge whether they were fair or unfair as a whole. Some were terrible, others excellent. Some were comedic, others thoughtful. The entry which won the contest was Child's Pay, which I highly recommend watching online, since CBS has refused to air it during the Super Bowl (they claim it is CBS policy not to air "issue ads").


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