The Grumpy Editor's guide to surviving the systemd debate [LWN.net]

The Grumpy Editor's guide to surviving the systemd debate

Posted Nov 20, 2014 20:04 UTC (Thu) by horsethief (guest, #99889)
In reply to: The Grumpy Editor's guide to surviving the systemd debate by mgb
Parent article: The Grumpy Editor's guide to surviving the systemd debate

Thank you for this, you've really hit the nail on the head. I don't understand why the pro-systemd people are willing to regress to this design pattern/mentality/architecture.

For anyone that doesn't understand, I've put my art skills to work and made a simplified diagram: http://i.imgur.com/kowKXoc.png

The Grumpy Editor's guide to surviving the systemd debate

Posted Nov 21, 2014 9:25 UTC (Fri) by zlynx (guest, #2285) [Link] (2 responses)

Your diagram is wrong though. You have a solid block for systemd, which isn't how it works. Please go study it and look at its interfaces between components. Then you can update your drawing.

The Grumpy Editor's guide to surviving the systemd debate

Posted Nov 21, 2014 17:26 UTC (Fri) by mgb (guest, #3226) [Link] (1 responses)

Every systemd component that interfaces with any other systemd component via any interface that is not public and guaranteed stable is part of the systemd entangled monolith.

The Grumpy Editor's guide to surviving the systemd debate

Posted Nov 21, 2014 20:29 UTC (Fri) by peter-b (guest, #66996) [Link]

Okay, cool. That's measurable. So by your definition, the "systemd entangled monolith" is:

* systemd
* systemd-journald
* systemd-logind

Seems reasonable.