Sorry, but no.

Posted Nov 19, 2014 18:27 UTC (Wed) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129)
In reply to: A request by corbet
Parent article: Today's Debian technical committee resignation: Ian Jackson

People need to deal with the consequences of their actions. Ian has been spreading all kinds of lies and trolling against systemd, he engaged in tactical voting and added fuel to a fire that was bad enough already and ultimately led to the resignation of several project members.

I'm all for respect, but there's nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade. I'm sure Ian did terrific work in the past, but that doesn't give him the right to behave like this.

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Sorry, but no.

Posted Nov 19, 2014 19:23 UTC (Wed) by Zack (guest, #37335) [Link] (1 responses)

> there's nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade

Oh, how I wish I could right now, but corbet asked me not to.

Sorry, but no.

Posted Nov 19, 2014 19:29 UTC (Wed) by martin.langhoff (subscriber, #61417) [Link]

And thank you :-)

Sorry, but no.

Posted Nov 19, 2014 20:45 UTC (Wed) by tomegun (subscriber, #56697) [Link] (4 responses)

Whatever we may think of recent events. Jackson did a great deal of work over many years, and now he has resigned. There is no point in rehashing whatever disagreements there may have been, let's be respectful and acknowledge his achievements instead. Water under the bridge and all that...

Sorry, but no.

Posted Nov 20, 2014 10:41 UTC (Thu) by drago01 (subscriber, #50715) [Link] (3 responses)

People get judged by their recent actions. To illustrate it with an extreme example imagine someone that people know as being a nice person goes and kills people. The latest action will surely overshadow what he did in the past.

So while Ian's recent actions are surly not comparable to "killing people" they did harm the debian project. So not really surprising that people forget about his past achievements and focus on that.

Sorry, but no.

Posted Nov 20, 2014 12:42 UTC (Thu) by Zack (guest, #37335) [Link] (1 responses)

No, because his actions "harming the project" is debatable. Now you could say that isn't so and have *that* debate, but:

-the votes are in
-Ian resigned from the TC

so it would be perpetuating the debate to perpetuate the debate, since it would involve the same amount of strife, but with nothing at stake.

Sorry, but no.

Posted Nov 20, 2014 14:00 UTC (Thu) by drago01 (subscriber, #50715) [Link]

Oh I am not asking to rehash the debate actually its good that this whole thing is finally ending. Just tried to explain why some people don't simply go "ok doesn't matter he did great work in the past" ... things simply don't work that way.

No imagination required

Posted Nov 20, 2014 19:00 UTC (Thu) by rgmoore (✭ supporter ✭, #75) [Link]

To illustrate it with an extreme example imagine someone that people know as being a nice person goes and kills people. The latest action will surely overshadow what he did in the past.

It doesn't take much imagination, given that one prominent Linux developer was convicted of killing his wife. A fair number of people were willing to defend him when there was still a serious question of his guilt, but he quickly became an unperson once he confessed.