The Grumpy Editor's guide to surviving the systemd debate

No my timemachine doesn't run fedora.. it runs android...being from the future and all.

The fact that Debian still has consolekit as a package doesn't change the fact that it has a dead and unmaintained upstream and other maintained projects should be relying on it.

And honestly it doesn't look to be actively maintained as a package in debian either as there are provided patches sitting in the debian bug tracker for years now.

yes indeed consolekit2 is an interesting development. Officially made public in October 2014, commit log suggests work started on it in feb 2014. Either way 2+ years after upstream died to announce the fork. Its existence now does not change the decision making leading up to October prior to it being known to exist. And it too late to make the jesse freeze without special consideration. So it doesn't even really change the situation for maintainers in the jessie release timescale either.

Really too bad it took 2 years for that fork announcement to happen. One has to wonder on the delay there. Like maybe if Debian had announced the intent to switch to systemd earlier, the fork would have happened earlier as well and there wouldn't have been a 2 year delay like this.

I mean seriously the consolekit2 fork was almost too late, even projects being run by maintainers who have previously voiced concern over systemd dependency. For example Lightdm was ready to drop CK support this month because of a lack of a maintained CK codebase.

Ref:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/lightdm/2014-Novemb...

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/lightdm/2014-Novemb...

Once consolekit2 shows up in deb packaging, that will be an interesting discussion.