On devfs and udev [LWN.net]

On devfs and udev

Posted Nov 13, 2014 16:41 UTC (Thu) by rgmoore (✭ supporter ✭, #75)
In reply to: On devfs and udev by cesarb
Parent article: The Grumpy Editor's guide to surviving the systemd debate

I'm not as knowledgeable on upstart (I never quite got the hang of it), but from what I have read, the original systemd developers looked at upstart, saw a few problems with it, and decided to go in a different direction. But they didn't start from scratch; they had in mind where upstart went right, and where upstart went wrong.

Also, and IMO critically, they didn't restrict their inspirations to other Linux init systems. They also looked at newer inits from other Unix-like systems, most notably launchd. Far from being some experimental, NIH project, systemd tried hard to copy ideas that had been shown to work on other systems.

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On devfs and udev

Posted Nov 13, 2014 17:34 UTC (Thu) by johannbg (guest, #65743) [Link] (1 responses)

It started out as Launchd + SMF + Linux integration and improvements sprinkled on top of that. I'm unsure how much upstart was taken into the original picture thou.

Solaris devs have done great things in the past then came oracle so why not learn from their effort and history copy what other OS have done well and try to improve and or integrate that directly into the core/baseOS stack of Linux?

On devfs and udev

Posted Nov 13, 2014 22:26 UTC (Thu) by eean (subscriber, #50420) [Link]

Ha, I didn't know this history, makes all the "but but the Unix way" arguments a bit ironic.