On the sickness of our community

Posted Oct 16, 2014 20:18 UTC (Thu) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389)
In reply to: On the sickness of our community by ksandstr
Parent article: On the sickness of our community

> cryptsetup's boot script has had significant trouble with boot-time password entry due to systemd influence in console input handling

Works flawlessly for me in Fedora, so it's not impossible. Maybe there's a bug with Debian or the script?

> Moreover, systemd got into Debian during a time when it was marketed as ``just an init system''. You'll agree that it has expanded into taking over the roles of syslog, dhcpcd, pm-utils, network-manager, and that many other functions are still in the pipeline.

Of those you list, only dhcp (just the client side though IIRC, not dhcp*d*) and networking weren't in systemd already and they had (AFAIR) been announced by that time. My understanding is that for *simple* network solutions, systemd will suffice. If you need bridging, VPN, or anything complicated, use NetworkManager (or the old ifcfg scripts…which still work because I still use them).

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On the sickness of our community

Posted Oct 20, 2014 16:40 UTC (Mon) by nye (subscriber, #51576) [Link]

>Works flawlessly for me in Fedora, so it's not impossible. Maybe there's a bug with Debian or the script?

Debian's version has some extra functionality (keyscripts) that's not supported. It could be reasonably argued that the way it's currently implemented is pretty ugly, although the flipside is that it could be considered simple and not over-engineered.

Last I checked (several weeks ago), it looked like it was going to be hard to find consensus on how to handle it, with discussions on it having petered out. Possibly it's just a case of the discussion having become less visible though.