On the sickness of our community

Posted Oct 9, 2014 13:31 UTC (Thu) by niner (guest, #26151)
In reply to: On the sickness of our community by gb
Parent article: On the sickness of our community

So you suggest that he just give up on everything he is interested in? That he give up his job? That we as a community give up on a valuable contributor? And this to protect the people who subject him to all kinds of abuse?

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On the sickness of our community

Posted Oct 9, 2014 13:54 UTC (Thu) by gb (subscriber, #58328) [Link] (5 responses)

If you don't fit some place you can:
1. change you to fit;
2. change place to fit you;
3. find other place.

He is not going to do (1), and actively attempting to do (2). The consequences of (2) are actually undefined. Yes, may be community will become better place. But also it may be that it will become hollow empty place, so it is very dangerous.
(3) is not bad at all - you just join new place there people are thinking in the same way as you. And stop wasting the time in discussion of the 'obvious' things. Everyone happy - you, new place, old place.

On the sickness of our community

Posted Oct 9, 2014 13:59 UTC (Thu) by niner (guest, #26151) [Link] (4 responses)

"Everyone happy - you, new place, old place."

Except for the next victim. Or do you think that if the abusers win and Lennart leaves the community that they will quietly go back to whatever else they like to do? That they will not feel confirmed in the behavior and look for a new target to vent their anger at?

On the sickness of our community

Posted Oct 9, 2014 14:12 UTC (Thu) by gb (subscriber, #58328) [Link] (3 responses)

I am unsure that there is a 'victim' and 'abuser's here. Take a look into the article. He does exactly thing he protests against: 'pours the shit' over someone. 'There are assholes in community' ... ' Linus said: ... '. For me this is like: Look, I can prove that Linus is asshole!

And I could see it that victim is actually Linus and community in this case.

On the sickness of our community

Posted Oct 9, 2014 14:20 UTC (Thu) by niner (guest, #26151) [Link] (2 responses)

Pours the shit? Really? Saying that someone is bad as a role mode is "pouring shit"?
And what do you call people who's funniest idea for a "joke" is suggesting to pool bitcoins to hire a hitman or to quote "cut his hands, so he will not be able to write any new line of code". Mind you that there was not a single smiley, grin, "but seriously" or any other indication that this was spoken in jest. It's just an interpretation that this was a joke. But regardless of that, I'd go forward to call such people "assholes". They clearly fit the definition.

On the sickness of our community

Posted Oct 9, 2014 18:26 UTC (Thu) by gb (subscriber, #58328) [Link] (1 responses)

Yes, reviving things someone done 2 years ago pointing person by name is "pour shit" at full scale.

On the sickness of our community

Posted Oct 10, 2014 1:02 UTC (Fri) by misc (subscriber, #73730) [Link]

Like the guy taking a 4 years old video of Datenwolf and Lennart to say that Lennart is always criticizing people ?