The EFF launches a router project [LWN.net]

The EFF launches a router project

Posted Jul 29, 2014 18:13 UTC (Tue) by mtaht (guest, #11087)
Parent article: The EFF launches a router project

A few comments:

CeroWrt is approaching a stable release, now that openwrt is entering the barrier breaker freeze. Stuff under the covers includes good ipv6 with just about everything, (especially) including comcast, bufferbloat fixes using the sqm system, full upnp support, etc, etc.

The only truly major difference left between openwrt and cerowrt is that cero routes everything and has the sqm system for managing bufferbloat better: http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Setting_...

And hopefully that system will make it up to openwrt also. The EFF is using a derivative of SQM to manage their sharing setup.

on the security front, dnssec is enabled by default, and access to certain daemons (like ssh) is moderated by xinetd. bcp38 is supported for reducing address spoofing concerns, there's mesh networking, and I forget what else.

I do not mind at all the EFF ripping out some of that stuff to tackle their gui, security, and update goals! - because security and gui are way down on my todo list - and I will do my best to track their work in cerowrt.

But if you are interested in something that works more fully, now, with the luci gui on the same hardware, try cero.

Latest release is at:

http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~cero2/cerowrt/wndr/3.1...

Next up for cerowrt are make-wifi-fast, and integration with the new protocols being developed by the ietf "homenet" working group.

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The EFF launches a router project

Posted Jul 30, 2014 17:34 UTC (Wed) by ms-tg (subscriber, #89231) [Link] (2 responses)

Thanks for posting this info.

Could anyone knowledgeable also comment on how the state of DD-WRT compares to these projects, by any chance?

The EFF launches a router project

Posted Jul 30, 2014 19:36 UTC (Wed) by dlang (guest, #313) [Link]

I only used dd-wrt a little bit, but it looked to me like the only thing that it may be suitable for was running an AP, while OpenWRT (and derivatives) are much more general.

configuration for dd-wrt was a registry of name-value pairs while Openwrt uses config files and scripts.

There is also a very large selection of packages available in Openwrt while dd-wrt is just a router.

The EFF launches a router project

Posted Aug 1, 2014 3:55 UTC (Fri) by mtaht (guest, #11087) [Link]

dd-wrt got fq_codel for it's QoS system a while back. It's uncertain if they grokked the need to up the target parameter for it at low bandwidths (basically the fq_codel target and interval should be increased to account for a MTU's worth of packets when used at low rates (below 3mbit), which is something we didn't figure out until some testing of the real world against the behavior of the ns2 model.

I like dd-wrt, but they tend to run a bit behind openwrt (for quite a few good reasons). I figure they will have the high level of ipv6 integration that openwrt now has soon, if not already.

The EFF launches a router project

Posted Jul 31, 2014 23:08 UTC (Thu) by NightMonkey (subscriber, #23051) [Link] (1 responses)

Any consideration for Tomato derivatives for this project? I'm really fond of Tomato by Shibby. http://tomato.groov.pl/

The EFF launches a router project

Posted Aug 1, 2014 3:57 UTC (Fri) by mtaht (guest, #11087) [Link]

I found the tomato community rather toxic to deal with.

http://tomatousb.org/forum/t-676664/trying-to-unravel-the...