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Schaller: Wayland in Fedora update

Schaller: Wayland in Fedora update

Posted Jul 6, 2014 16:01 UTC (Sun) by spaetz (subscriber, #32870)
In reply to: Schaller: Wayland in Fedora update by Wol
Parent article: Schaller: Wayland in Fedora update

> Why is it that KDE always gets the flack for distros shipping a "broken" 4.0 (no it wasn't broken) when it was the distros who ignored KDE saying "for fsck's sake DON'T SHIP IT!".

Interesting, I just re-read KDE 4,0 release notes which state:"KDE 4.0 is the innovative Free Software desktop containing lots of applications for every day use...." Does not exactly sounds like "DON'T SHIP IT". Also, the release notes make mention of which distros will ship 4.0, which does not sound like they've been doing that against KDE's will :-).


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Schaller: Wayland in Fedora update

Posted Jul 10, 2014 16:02 UTC (Thu) by roblucid (subscriber, #48964) [Link]

Yeah, it was HOWEVER obvious to anyone with a clue that it would be a train wreck.

The KDE core developers knew really, but needed to put a release to get applications porting and a focus on bug fixing. When it gets to a release Marketing team, they aren't going to write that they're knowingly shipping broken software.

Schaller: Wayland in Fedora update

Posted Jul 12, 2014 19:33 UTC (Sat) by Jandar (subscriber, #85683) [Link]

Excerpt from http://www.commit-digest.org/issues/2007-12-30/

KDE 4.0 is not KDE4 but only the first (4.0.0 even non-bugfix) release in a years-long KDE 4 series to come.
KDE 4.0 is known to have missing parts or temporary implementations (eg. printing, PIM, Plasma).
[...]
Most applications (many are not even fully ported yet) will take only advantage of new features which the new Qt/KDE libraries offer later.
[...]
KDE 4.0 is only expected to be used by early adopters, not every KDE 3.5 user (and IMHO KDE 4.0 shouldn't be pushed onto other user types like planned for Kubuntu ShipIt (which by the way is said to have only 6 months support for its packages)).
[...]
Last, again: KDE 4.0 is not KDE 4.

Schaller: Wayland in Fedora update

Posted Jul 12, 2014 21:11 UTC (Sat) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

Not sure why we are discussing this still but the lack of any such wording was in say the 4.0 release announcement was a problem that was corrected in the 4.1 announcement but it was too late for some distros and some users. Since this is such an old mistake, there is no real purpose to try to justify it anymore. The current releases have more or less corrected the actual issues with the 4.0 release. So we can and should really move on.


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