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Clasen: Introducing GtkInspector

Clasen: Introducing GtkInspector

Posted May 22, 2014 15:48 UTC (Thu) by raven667 (subscriber, #5198)
In reply to: Clasen: Introducing GtkInspector by jospoortvliet
Parent article: Clasen: Introducing GtkInspector

> Reality is different, again: 40% of contributions to Qt come from outside of Digia.

This is not a point that I am talking about, I agree that the Qt ecosystem has a lot of developers. Clearly I haven't been able to communicate what hair I am splitting here. The point is that there clearly exists an ecosystem around GTK who haven't chosen to use Qt and that if you want to convert those users and bring them into the Qt ecosystem then you will have to find out what their concerns are which are preventing them from joining and address them. One of those concerns seems to be the CLA. Talking about how big the Qt ecosystem currently is and how successful it has been doesn't change the fact that there is another (smaller) ecosystem out there blocking any kind of universal consensus in the Linux desktop space.

Maybe an analogy can help (or make it less clear 8-). A desktop software application which is only in English can have a large, vibrant development and user community and be wildly successful, but there will always be a part of the marketplace where telling potential users/developers to "learn English" is not going to be helpful, so there will always be a percentage of the marketplace you are cutting out by that decision.


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Clasen: Introducing GtkInspector

Posted May 22, 2014 18:46 UTC (Thu) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link]

> The point is that there clearly exists an ecosystem around GTK who haven't chosen to use Qt and that if you want to convert those users and bring them into the Qt ecosystem then you will have to find out what their concerns are which are preventing them from joining and address them.
I doubt that the CLA is one of the reasons. There are nowadays two reasons people pick GTK: Gnome and legacy code. Addressing those is close to impossible for the Qt developers.

Clasen: Introducing GtkInspector

Posted May 22, 2014 20:09 UTC (Thu) by boudewijn (subscriber, #14185) [Link]

"I doubt that the CLA is one of the reasons. There are nowadays two reasons people pick GTK: Gnome and legacy code. Addressing those is close to impossible for the Qt developers."

Actually, is there any recently started project that picked GTK? Any project that felt, "Yo! users are in need of XYZ, let's give it them asap, so, the obvious choice is to start coding it in C and GTK!"?

Or even, "Yo! We're not giving our users what they need, we're not making progress as quick as we could, let's port to GTK, yay!"?

Clasen: Introducing GtkInspector

Posted May 22, 2014 20:37 UTC (Thu) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]

Uzbl is pretty small, but WebKitGTK just provides lots more access than QtWebKit, so we're stuck with GTK. I was looking forward to WebKitNix (an OpenGL port), but that has died off already :/ .

Clasen: Introducing GtkInspector

Posted May 31, 2014 14:36 UTC (Sat) by Velmont (guest, #46433) [Link]

Question, have you looked into Chromium at the content API layer? There's quite some compartmentalization going on, and making the project more useful for outsiders.
We're even doing some of that work in Opera (where I work), because it's obviously helpful for us :)


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