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Is this SQL databases or No-SQL?

Is this SQL databases or No-SQL?

Posted Mar 24, 2014 21:48 UTC (Mon) by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
In reply to: Is this SQL databases or No-SQL? by farnz
Parent article: A discussion between database and kernel developers

On that basis, the best place to point you is http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl

There's various interesting write-ups there, a mess of source code, etc. Unfortunately, it looks to me to have bitrotted a bit - there have been a couple of ports to new systems and also a bunch of external links have rotted - not surprising since the wiki has been around for ages.

A couple of interesting links from the wiki ...

http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?KenSimms
http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?MultiValuedDatabases
http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?PickDataStructure
http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?PhilosophyOfPick
http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Getting_Started
http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?MVDefinition

Note that one of the reasons I am a Pick fan is that I think that relational theory is broken. Not that the theory is not mathematically correct, but that empirically it doesn't fit the real world. In particular, C&D's first rule *defines* data as coming in rows and columns. Ime, in the real world, this is the exception not the norm, and as a result most databases that use RDBMSs need to use a sledgehammer to force square pegs into round holes :-) Pick just says "what shape is your data? Here, let me store it for you!"

I hope these pages give you a flavour of things. Oh - and why would you come over "like an indian oursourcer"? Come over as yourself, someone who wants to have a play with Pick. The outsourcers usually come over very obviously as individuals who have been plonked in front of a system, have a job to do, and are clueless as to how to do it. If you come over as someone who's playing on their own dime with the system, that's a very different kettle of fish ... (and we're pretty helpful, even to those indian outsourcers - it's not their fault they're sat in front of an unfamiliar system. We do tend to suggest, however, that if they're being paid, they should hire in some paid expertise :-)

Cheers,
Wol


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Is this SQL databases or No-SQL?

Posted Mar 25, 2014 9:16 UTC (Tue) by farnz (subscriber, #17727) [Link]

I'd come over like an Indian outsourcer because I'd be asking the same questions they would - "pls, show me the codes, I need to see how to use Pick". If the community is unwelcoming to that, then I'm going to be unwelcome.

Plus, having just spent a couple of minutes trying to find the "post question" form, I can't actually work out how to post on the u2ug forum - there's probably a super sekrit sign up page I have to go through, but finding that's more effort than I'm willing to put in. FWIW, I clicked "Forums" (in the Contribute box), then "Welcome Forum". I could see a "latest threads" thing, but not how to create a new thread of my own.

I'm fast coming to the conclusion that Pick is not for me to learn about - it's too much of a closed shop, and unwelcoming to newcomers.


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