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History: In-Kernel HTTP Acceleration

History: In-Kernel HTTP Acceleration

Posted Jan 15, 2014 12:33 UTC (Wed) by PaXTeam (guest, #24616)
In reply to: History: In-Kernel HTTP Acceleration by hummassa
Parent article: The unveiling of kdbus

start the day with a little ad hominem eh? calling me a nobody, tsk tsk. and what was uncalled for is presenting one side of the coin as if the other didn't matter. maybe go out into the real world every now and then and ask server operators how they like to clean up after getting owned. so yes, when performance comes at the cost of security (we're talking about *remote* kernel bugs, do you even comprehend the seriousness of that?) then i'll call it gross incompetence and a little sarcasm can go with it (and apparently fly above your head too ;).


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History: In-Kernel HTTP Acceleration

Posted Jan 15, 2014 13:20 UTC (Wed) by hummassa (subscriber, #307) [Link]

Sarcasm without indicators in written language (especially in a forum where serious discussion usually takes place, or should, like lwn) will fly above my and many others' head all the time. :D

> maybe go out into the real world every now and then and ask server operators how they like to clean up after getting owned. so yes, when performance comes at the cost of security (we're talking about *remote* kernel bugs, do you even comprehend the seriousness of that?)

This seems to be the non-sarcastic part of your post, so I'll seriously respond:

Been there, done that, got many white hairs in interminable tech-versus-accounting discussions on the topic of IIS (ugh) versus Apache versus Tux and what was cheaper, to let our webserver be cracked and then restore the backups on a new one (oh, the early nineties, no need for cdns and stuff) or to harden them. (Hint: accounting wins all discussions, [joke] those discussions are a good rehearsal for marriage [/joke]).

Tux won for the two years where the profit of serving ten times more clients in the same hardware was greater than the cost of having a spare server semi-ready, rotating them from time to time, etc.

But, for what is worth, you are right that it was a dreadful time, security-wise. But it was before script kiddies, and before 9/11 and DHS and the NSA. We did telnet our machines at the time, all the time.


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