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Jolla Review: Some Rough Edges, But This Linux Smartphone Shows Promise (Forbes)

Jolla Review: Some Rough Edges, But This Linux Smartphone Shows Promise (Forbes)

Posted Jan 15, 2014 10:40 UTC (Wed) by dsommers (subscriber, #55274)
In reply to: Jolla Review: Some Rough Edges, But This Linux Smartphone Shows Promise (Forbes) by eru
Parent article: Jolla Review: Some Rough Edges, But This Linux Smartphone Shows Promise (Forbes)

I can confirm this. Enable developer mode + allow remote ssh access and set a password. Now a terminal app appears and you can execute 'devel-su' and provide the password you just set. Now you're root, and can do whatever you want.

The phone is definitely a work in progress, but if it gets through these worst edges I believe this can really become a good competition in the iOS and Android world. What is the hardest barrier IMHO, is that it is heavily gesture oriented, and that can be daunting at the beginning. But if you get past that, it's a very sleek and clever UI, which gives all the screen to the app.

I'll admit that the Sailfish OS maybe isn't too open, but it's built on the MER project (a community continuation of MeeGo). And if I've understood it correctly, the Sailfish branch of MER is more the user experience than the underlying layers (which is MER). In this market, I'm willing to grant Jolla some grace period to get a good grip in the market before I'd expect more openness also on this part. But it looks to me like they want to be far more open than the other alternatives.


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Jolla Review: Some Rough Edges, But This Linux Smartphone Shows Promise (Forbes)

Posted Jan 15, 2014 11:33 UTC (Wed) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link]

Can you install MER on a Sailfish phone? Are the drivers available? Is it possible to reflash it (or whatever is required)?

Jolla Review: Some Rough Edges, But This Linux Smartphone Shows Promise (Forbes)

Posted Jan 15, 2014 12:21 UTC (Wed) by dsommers (subscriber, #55274) [Link]

I'd expect this to work, at least to some degree, yes. I mean, some people have been booting up a different kernels. That's the key part in regards to drivers. There might be some firmware drivers which needs to be copied over to a MER installation, though.

Also considering that people have been able to run MER/Nemo on the N9/N950/N900 (plus misc. Android devices). As Sailfish is MER under the hood, I really would expect it to run MER/Nemo more like standalone installation. But I haven't tried it myself, and nobody have written any wikis or blogged about it yet, AFAICS.

It wouldn't surprise me if the MER community would help you out too.

Jolla Review: Some Rough Edges, But This Linux Smartphone Shows Promise (Forbes)

Posted Jan 19, 2014 20:58 UTC (Sun) by Jonno (subscriber, #49613) [Link]

> Can you install MER on a Sailfish phone? Are the drivers available? Is it possible to reflash it (or whatever is required)?

Actually, all Sailfish phones comes with Mer OS already installed. Sailfish is a user experience on running on top of Mer OS, just like Nemo and Plasma Active are.

And yes, you can add the Nemo repositories and install it using zypper, or you can flash a new FS image with Nemo pre-installed, whichever you prefer (though, obviously, you get to keep both pieces if you break it).

All drivers are available for use in alternate FS images, but some only in binary form (eg. as an RPM in the Sailfish repository).


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