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Re: Bug#727708: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

From:  Adrien CLERC <>
To:  Marko Randjelovic <>, Paul Tagliamonte <>
Subject:  Re: Bug#727708: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.
Date:  Wed, 06 Nov 2013 14:04:53 +0100
Message-ID:  <>
Cc:, Lucas Nussbaum <>
Archive-link:  Article

>>> And SysVInit just works well and it is simply enough. It has much less dependencies than
systemd. Do not make unneeded weight on people to learn systemd in addition to shell scripts, if
systemd is powerful that also means there is a lot to learn. I really doubt non-standards task can
be solved with systemd without shell scripts (or similar), and every serious UNIX admin must know
shell programming anyway.
>> This is like saying "A horse drawn carrage works well enough, why do you
>> need an airplane".
> You need an airplane because Earth is 40,000 km in round and because you have a reason to travel
to a distant location. Or just you want to do some sport? But I know my possibilities and I
wouldn't spend my money on an airplane just for sport, to produce an airplane you have to take raw
materials out of this planet, you have to spend power, human time, make pollution, etc.
That's exactly how I feel when I want to create a small daemon using a 
SystemV init script. I feel like building an airplane from scratch while 
I would just use a bike.

Introducing the concept of "possibilities" is interesting: sometimes, 
you need some choices in your available tools to perform the same task, 
depending on your current need…


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