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I agree with you

Posted Oct 15, 2013 14:10 UTC (Tue) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129)
In reply to: Cinnamon 2.0 released - mixed feelings by marcel.oliver
Parent article: Cinnamon 2.0 released

I agree with the notion that desktops and applications should be separate. In fact, this is where KDE is heading. KDE Frameworks 5 and Plasma Workspaces 2 and the KDE applications are developed and released separately.

It is unfortunate that the Gtk/Qt schism persists to this day, preventing applications from integrating well with KDE Plasma/Gnome respectively. But nobody seems to even have acknowledged that this is a problem, much less started doing something about it.

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Posted Oct 15, 2013 22:35 UTC (Tue) by ovitters (guest, #27950) [Link] (3 responses)

Various desktop environments have been working together for loads of years on freedesktop.org. As a result we have agreed on various standards. See http://standards.freedesktop.org/.

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Posted Oct 17, 2013 14:22 UTC (Thu) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link] (2 responses)

I'm still getting a Gtk style file picker dialog on my KDE desktop. Gtk still isn't able to use Qt's themes. Third-party Gtk widgets can't be used in a Qt program, or vice versa. So I'm sorry, but the standardisation approach just doesn't work, one of the toolkits needs to go. High-profile projects like VLC and Wireshark chose to migrate from Gtk to Qt, so I hope for that trend to continue.

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Posted Oct 17, 2013 14:36 UTC (Thu) by ovitters (guest, #27950) [Link]

In GTK+3.x a lot of work is going on to allow themes to make use of CSS. Thereby breaking the themes a lot, but eventually it will quiet down.

Anyway, people work on whatever they want to work on.

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Posted Oct 17, 2013 16:08 UTC (Thu) by BlueLightning (subscriber, #38978) [Link]

> Gtk still isn't able to use Qt's themes

FWIW, there has been some parallel work to accomplish the same goal, e.g. QGtkStyle (GTK styling for Qt apps) and Oxygen-GTK (use of the default KDE style in GTK applications). However, it may just be my perception, but it does seem like this work seems to be mostly done by the KDE/Qt camp.