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Fedora mining for COPR

Fedora mining for COPR

Posted Sep 7, 2013 0:46 UTC (Sat) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
In reply to: Fedora mining for COPR by jengelh
Parent article: Fedora mining for COPR

You made a clearly erroneous claim that Fedora is developing a new UI on top of libzypp. Fedora is instead adopting yum to use libsolv. This gets the advantage of a shared resolver without the difficulty of learning a new UI.


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Fedora mining for COPR

Posted Sep 7, 2013 0:59 UTC (Sat) by jengelh (guest, #33263) [Link]

>You made a clearly erroneous claim that Fedora is developing a new UI

Yes I did. (

>Fedora is instead adopting yum to use libsolv. This gets the advantage of a shared resolver without the difficulty of learning a new UI.

And I am still asking why does Fedora updates some old tools to new tech, when at the same time, Fedora has just moved to a new tool with old UI compatibility in another case?

Fedora mining for COPR

Posted Sep 7, 2013 1:17 UTC (Sat) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

Fedora is not a monolithic entity and a lot of the decisions are based on rough consensus between different stakeholders which is different from one project to another. You compared this decision to systemd project which isn't specific to Fedora and is developed entirely independent from any distribution and freely adopts several Debian conventions on a routine basis for example and you can't really introduce new features of systemd with a old sysv init style ui which itself is different between different distributions. Neverthless compatibility shims between systemd and service and chkconfig commands were provided in Fedora before it was made the default.

For OBS, it has more features but the cost of switching is high enough (new resolver, doesn't use mock, uses Ruby for UI which Fedora infrastructure team hasn't deployed before, uses vm instead of chroot, doesn't integrate well with SELinux, uses a very different build workflow etc) that it isn't a obvious win to switch over yet but the developer who is leading the effort of merging copr with koji has noted that he is still in favor of switching over at a later point once enough of a community developers around the project. The first step would be getting into the repository and see if enough Fedora developers get involved to move it forward.


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