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SUSE's LibreOffice team moves to Collabora

SUSE's LibreOffice team moves to Collabora

Posted Sep 3, 2013 18:42 UTC (Tue) by rcweir (guest, #48888)
In reply to: SUSE's LibreOffice team moves to Collabora by AlexHudson
Parent article: SUSE's LibreOffice team moves to Collabora

You get me wrong. I'm very optimistic about this move. LibreOffice now has a huge part of their development coming from engineers at a far smaller company that has less far money to waste than SUSE did. I'm hoping this will lead to smarter decisions, including decisions to work cooperatively with Apache.


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SUSE's LibreOffice team moves to Collabora

Posted Sep 3, 2013 19:18 UTC (Tue) by Zizzle (guest, #67739) [Link]

FUD. How has the LibreOffice crowd refused to work with Apache? Seems more like the other way around to me.

SUSE's LibreOffice team moves to Collabora

Posted Sep 3, 2013 20:04 UTC (Tue) by SEJeff (subscriber, #51588) [Link]

Google: Rob Weir Libreoffice. I'm not going to call someone a troll as I'd rather let their own words speak for them. This is LWN and unlike /. or Reddit, we *try* to stay civil. Primarily because Jonathan and company are a stand up crew, and I'd rather make their lives easier rather than harder.

SUSE's LibreOffice team moves to Collabora

Posted Sep 4, 2013 0:10 UTC (Wed) by Zizzle (guest, #67739) [Link]

I'm familiar with Rob's one man campaign (or IBMs campaign?) against Libre Office. The insult/warning/doubt wrapped in faint praise method he often employs.

The interesting part is what do you do... leave a troll's assertions unchallenged?

Those not familiar with his history may be fooled by his authoritative sounding tone.

SUSE's LibreOffice team moves to Collabora

Posted Sep 4, 2013 8:49 UTC (Wed) by rvfh (subscriber, #31018) [Link]

Agreed. We can't let the trolls unanswered. Just like we cannot let them litter the LWN comments space. Can we have a voting system so new people could get a feel of what old time users think about some commenters?

SUSE's LibreOffice team moves to Collabora

Posted Sep 4, 2013 14:20 UTC (Wed) by SEJeff (subscriber, #51588) [Link]

Fair enough, from the comment, I wasn't sure if you were aware or not of the ongoing FUD offensive. Just wanted to make sure

SUSE's LibreOffice team moves to Collabora

Posted Sep 3, 2013 20:16 UTC (Tue) by AlexHudson (guest, #41828) [Link]

You're optimistic about that? I doubt a simple change of affiliation will change the various habits of the developers affected, nor do I imagine that the balance of opinion within the entire LibreOffice community would suddenly change even if, for some reason, those developers affected had a surprising change of heart.

Where I do agree with you, is that the smaller, nimble, agile and product-focussed company is likely to make smarter decisions than the various "enterprise" behemoths with money to spend. The amount of waste that could be avoided is notable indeed.

SUSE's LibreOffice team moves to Collabora

Posted Sep 4, 2013 11:58 UTC (Wed) by rcweir (guest, #48888) [Link]

There is nothing that focuses the mind so much as the economics of a small company trying to meet payroll. This can even overcome bad habits. So, yes, I am optimistic.

Are you really so convinced that LibreOffice developers are incapable of change?

SUSE's LibreOffice team moves to Collabora

Posted Sep 4, 2013 14:01 UTC (Wed) by ThinkRob (subscriber, #64513) [Link]

> Are you really so convinced that LibreOffice developers are incapable of change?

I think he may be more convinced that this isn't much of a change for "LibreOffice developers" in the broad sense (although it obviously is for a small portion of them). Remember: LibreOffice isn't a single company's pet project like it was in the Sun days.

SUSE's LibreOffice team moves to Collabora

Posted Sep 4, 2013 14:36 UTC (Wed) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]

Could you please take your AOO advocacy elsewhere?

Collabory is a profitable company. The LibreOffice business is profitable. Your assertions that there somehow is some fear/uncertainty is FUD.

Full disclosure: rcweir is a known AOO advocate who always complains about LibreOffice, mostly using weird logic and false statements.

SUSE's LibreOffice team moves to Collabora

Posted Sep 5, 2013 6:39 UTC (Thu) by ingwa (guest, #71149) [Link]

rcweir is a known AOO advocate who always complains about LibreOffice

This part is true.

mostly using weird logic and false statements

This part is false. I have never seen a real falsehood from Rob when it comes to figures or facts. I have seen some speculation on the motivation of people's actions but that is just as rampant on the other side.

SUSE's LibreOffice team moves to Collabora

Posted Sep 8, 2013 11:31 UTC (Sun) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link]

There's telling lies, and there's telling the truth with the intention to deceive.

Personally, I just wish Rob and the AOO crew would follow the LibreOffice example and just IGNORE the opposition, rather than picking fights.

If I wanted to know about AOO I would follow it. I don't want AOO guys filling the LO forums with AOO rubbish.

Cheers,
Wol

SUSE's LibreOffice team moves to Collabora

Posted Sep 4, 2013 14:31 UTC (Wed) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]

That you don't like LibreOffice is very obvious already. Please cut out the advocacy already. This is not about Apache OpenOffice. This is not about AOO advocates thoughts about LibreOffice.

"smarter decisions" != what is good according to AOO advocates.

You've been pretty quiet in the previous LibreOffice post at LWN. Please revert your current behaviour.


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